As do I :-)

It's amazing to me that we STILL haven't figured out that when you catch these perverts you PUT THEM AWAY FOREVER as LONG as it's known 100 % that they are guilty.

We still RELEASE them.

Giving them license to go and molest more of our kids. Which they often murder in hopes of getting away with it again.

Who's an idiot ?

WE are.

I don't get it.

Do you guys advocate slow, torturous deaths for all violent criminals (rapists, murderers, etc.) or specifically child molesters?

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I advocate a one strike law for them.

That's all.

Of COURSE I feel like they should be tortured and killed. That's not how our justice system works though.

But I'll bet YOU'D feel like torturing and killing some pervert if you had to read the details of some real case files of what some of these sick fucks did to a very young KID.

Murderers should get the gallows, in my opinion.

Rapists should get the electric chair; takes a little longer for them to die.

Child molesters? Man, I don't know that there's a slow enough way to kill them...

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What I'M saying is that WE (you, I, every American) are stupid when we let these rotten people back OUT of jail to re-offend and murder our kids.


There's no two ways around it. We are STUPID. We must LIKE seeing and reading and hearing about more of our, and other peoples kids getting molested and murdered.

Sick culture we live in isn't it ?

No ?

Specifically child molesters.

They are a very special case of violent criminal, and as such, deserve very special treatment.

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I dont know if there is either, but just think of what we could learn in the field of medicine by attempting to keep them alive longer as they are S L O W L Y and painfully executed.

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Oh, god, I hope this thread doesn't turn into another "who can think of the most violent punishment" discussion. Those are fucking lame.

Anyways, I must be the crazy one here. While child molestation is an incredibly sick minded crime, I think it's absolutely ridiculous to say it's worse than murder.

If any of you have lost a loved one due to tragic circumstances, you'll understand the complete helplessness, emptiness and the impossible to fulfill desire to see them "one last time" that comes with it. Child molestation is terrible, but the person lives on. The person is able to get help to deal with any mental or physical issues that may arise from the assault. And loved ones are able to comfort them and be with them in times of need, which helps everyone heal.

You don't get that with a dead person. They're dead, you'll never see them again, and you'll know that the suffering they endured in their last minutes are just as terrifying, if not more so, than molestation.

This is one of the few arguments where I seriously doubt anyone will convince me otherwise. But, admittedly, this is a position that comes down to personal opinion and we obviously disagree strongly.

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If child molestation ever does become punished with sentences equivalent to murder, I suspect more child molesters will be more proned to murder their victims in addition to molesting them. That would be worse for the families.

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A good number of then already DO that.

Should we then make these crimes against children carry even LIGHTER sentences ?

That can't possibly be what you're saying.

It's a particularly heinous crime with or WITHOUT murder added into the equation.

Just so some sicko can "get his rocks off." (it IS almost exclusively males that are guilty of the worst of these)

I am not saying that the punishment for child molestation should be light; but I am saying that having the punishment lighter than murder may well prevent those who would not normally (if that word can be applied to these creeps) murder their victims from doing so in an effort to avoid getting caught.

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I completely agree. There does need to be a stark difference between sentences for murder and for child molestation. Both terrible crimes, but in my opinion, murder is worlds worse. The intentional taking of someone's life is the ultimate in inhumane crimes as far as I see it.

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I disagree. Molesting a child causes damages to that child he will carry through his entire life - essentially causing the victim lasting and recurring damage.

You can only die once.

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I don't believe my view is lame; rather it is a pragmatic take on preventing further heartache to the families of the victims.

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