Sure, but you should keep your emotions in check and instead provide a logical and rational argument to support your position. "It should be. Sick fucks looking for child porn should be beaten..." can hardly be identified as such.I thought it was already well-known that I am a rational, rather than emotional debater. Regardless, I am simply arguing in favor of adjusting certain laws, which is not exactly a support of all child pornography.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

But it's so much easier to just bash people with unfounded ad-hominem! Why engage in rational argument, a tactic which requires one to have a basic grasp of logic, when ad-hominem comes so much more naturally?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

You clearly speak from personal experience...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I think everyone knows my position on pedophiles and as to what I’d have done to them.
However after reading down through this thread, I started pondering….”Would viewing child pornography satisfy a pedophiles sexual perversion”? or “Would it increase their desire”? I couldn’t find any statistics to show either way but I was sort of leaning towards it satisfying their perverted needs. But I'm no expert on these matters.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

The problem comes about the fact that non-experts are making all the decisions for either the sake of political correctness or "morality". Then know-nothing legislators start trying to censor anime kiddie porn because they think it's immoral. Then they forget that they've crossed the line and have begun treading upon our first amendment rights without given it a passing thought.


Important notice to unthinking neocons: defending a person's right to anime, cartoon kiddie porn does not mean that I endorse or engage in such behavior.

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"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

We weren't talking about anime, but actual children.
If someone wants to jack-off over cartoons, who am I to intervene with the climax of the situation.

Actually, the more I think about it, I’d have to change my opinion on my last post. Using prohibition as an example; People found ways to obtain booze whether it was against the law or not. Having booze readily available to the public did not reduce its consumption, but has actually grown……So the question in my mind is: “Would pedophile cases follow suite”?

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Are you questioning the immorality of sex with children?

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Actually, I was referring to your post.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

But clearly, he was discussing anime, which is also illegal due to legislators who have a mindset similar to that of some of the less rational posters in this thread.Well, according to his post, it's illegal. That was his point.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Actually, he was discussing the morality of certain anime porn. From what I understand, anime does not contain real people. That's completely different from any human-involving porn. Furthermore, if the law-related posts in this forum are correct, "sex with children" doesn't even need to be present for real nudity involving real kids to be illegal. Can you explain how you went from "anime porn" to "sex with children?"

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

It was a quick post to bump the thread so that one of the "whitey" threads was not at the top of the queue for this sub-forum. I know that cartoons don't involve real people. It was a bump.

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Actually, hand drawn and computer generated child pornography was recently made legal.
Computer-Generated Child Pornography Images still Represent a Gap in the U.S. Law : Internet Business Law

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Well, I'm glad it's moving in at least some rational direction. Still, the problem I have with prosecuting real child porn viewers is that:

1. Not all child nudity involves sex.
2. Some child nudity occurs in public places where no expectation of privacy is present.
3. A person downloading child nudity does not necessarily engage in its creation or its funding.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

The argument could be made that it perpetuates it. After all, it has to originate somewhere. If there's nobody looking at it, there's no reason to produce it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

The person could produce it for himself. Another situation could be one where the pornography was leaked by the original buyer to hundreds of those who download it without paying for it. Or are you saying a large percentage of child pornography is produced for no other reason than that it can be shared freely? Given the risks associated with distribution of it, I find that hard to believe. But if you do believe it, let me ask you another question. What if someone produces and distributes child porn for the sole purpose of rebelling against the government? Would you punish policemen who enforce the relevant laws as you do those who download it?

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