Let's see, that's an average of about two wrongful convictions per year just for Dallas County- over four per year for the entire State of Texas- and that's just the ones we know of so far.

I Googled these keywords:

"number death warrants George Bush"

This is what I found:

Think there's any possibility that Bush&Co- and the "Law and Order" patriot types of Texas fame- might have "mistakenly" executed a few innocent people too?

Yep, Texas sure is the "Lone Star" State now, isn't it? I wonder if G.W. is feeling more and more like a "lone star" Head of State now too?

Were the last two sentences derisive sarcasm?
Ya damn straight they were.

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

Hmmm, when was GWB last governor of Texas? That's right; it was 1995-2000. BDS can be a bitch.

__________________
I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them; speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

Let's see.

Bush was governor for 5 years ending in 2000.

Chatman was in prison for 26 years, ending in 2008.

Hmmm.

Can we figure out of Bush was governor before, or after, Chatman was tried, convicted and sentenced.

Let's try hard.

Hmmmm.

It's a tough one....

Matt

__________________
De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum

What's a hard one is how folks like yourself get so confused over when an inmate was convicted in Texas and totally lose the point of what it is about the Texas court system that seems to wrongfully convict so many people- particularly Black People.

I just thought I'd draw a comparison to Bush&Co in this matter because they seem to fit the "Texas" mold so well- so "right", so certain, so damn cocksure of themselves- especially when they don't care what others think and act like they're so damned well connected to God.

Sorry, sweeties, but those pigs won't fly.

Gem


Note to mods:

If you want to move this thread to the "Securities" section please do so- that's where it really belongs anyways.

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

God bless Texas!!!!

__________________


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I lost your point among your irrelevant (certainly to this case) bleating about "Bush&Co".

Yes, Texas has had a few prisoners exonerated by science that was not available at the original trial.

Not sure why you think this is unique to Texas, but I can understand why you'd have to choose Texas to bring in your irrelevant "I hate Bush" pronouncement.

Matt

__________________
De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum

God bless Texas for what? Incarcerating and probably executing innocent people? Is that something you would really expect God to bless?

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

In order to make this anything but a testament to your personal bias against Bush and/or Texas and subsequent cherry-picking of facts to support it, I'd suggest doing some comparative research. Can you show that the rate of wrongful convictions in Texas is substantially higher than the national average, per capita, or the average of other states? I seem to recall DNA evidence overturning plenty of wrongful convictions here in Illinois as well. Does that mean that Obama is at fault?

__________________
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Why is this unique to Texas?:

That's why, Matt Larson. Maybe Dallas County and Texas as a whole have released more wrongfully convicted prisoners because they've wrongfully convicted so many more than any other county or state in the union.

And that wasn't just another 'pronouncement". That was just another "confirmation" of why Bush&Co deserve to be hated.

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

Yes, we get it, you hate Bush and Company.

Well and good.

Now, if you have a genuine interest in the prisoner exoneration issue, we could talk about that.

OTOH, if this was intended as yet another drive by "I hate Bush, and here's my completely irrelevant reason" thread, we can consider it "Mission Accomplished", and move on.

The prison issue is an interesting one, and I'd like to discuss it in and of itself, if we're done with the political posturing?

Matt

__________________
De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum

Obama wasn't wrongfully convicting people in Illinois nor was he signing death warrants. Bush&Co, and I'm sure quite a few judges and juries that supported Bush&CO Texas style, were.

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

Bah...keep searching for your Holy Grail! Maybe, someday, you'll find somebody that has been put to death and later proven innocent (in modern America).

For so long, y'all pinned your hopes on Julius and Ethel Rosenberg being the example case until former USSR documents were declassified, proving their guilt (even further).

You kill somebody in Texas, they'll kill you back. They don't mess around there. 99 years for rape. Don't like it? Investigate 49 other potential options.

That dude is just fortunate he lives within a society/country (and, yes, state) that allows him the opportunity to continue to try to prove his innocence after being convicted of a crime like that - and publicly acknowledges the errors when they occur. That is the lesson to be learned here.

__________________

"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Bush was "convicting" people?



I've no love at all for Bush - with all of the things that he does that are misguided and stupid, why do you find it necessary to come up with nonsense like this as an indictment of him?

__________________
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

I'm sure you'd like to "move on", just as fast as your little scurrying feet can carry you. But this whole issue, and the mindsets and principles- or the lack thereof- of all concerned is deserving of being studied in a little more depth.

Gem

__________________
There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

How do you know they have more wrongfully convicted people than other states, though? Simply because they've found more people to be innocent doesn't mean this. It may just mean they have a better working or funded system of finding innocent people in prison than other states.

I know Virginia has a pretty high amount of executions, but we've found less innocent people on death row than Texas has. Does this mean that we convict less innocent people or that we just care less about it than Texas?

__________________
“Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.” -Dr. Carl Sagan