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| View Poll Results: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist? | |||
| Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then death for a second offense. |
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1 | 3.70% |
| Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then life for a second offense. |
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2 | 7.41% |
| Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and death the second offense. |
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2 | 7.41% |
| Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and life in prison the second offense. |
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4 | 14.81% |
| Castration plus the death penalty |
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1 | 3.70% |
| Castration plus life in prison |
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1 | 3.70% |
| Just the death penalty. |
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4 | 14.81% |
| Just life in prison |
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4 | 14.81% |
| These people are sick they should be cured while they are incarcerated and then released. |
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3 | 11.11% |
| No more than what state law allows even if it is little or not time behind bars |
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0 | 0% |
| other |
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5 | 18.52% |
| Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?
I believe the death penalty is the punishment for the most heinous of from crimes such as premeditated murder,treason,terrorism,child molestation/rape,armed robbery, and kidnapping.
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Being drunk does not absolve one of responsibility...
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?
There's no doubt that Child molestation or Rape is something that criminals cannot rehabilitate from.
Watching Dateline NBC has pretty much shown me that those guys are habitually catch and release and catch and release. They can't seem to help themselves, so the only remedy is to remove them from society.
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Example. A Tresspasser who sees a no tresspassing sign and does so any way is guilty. A Person caught on anothers land, and the no tresspassing sign is not posted in a manner to be visible to anyone who might accidently enter that property is not necessarily guilty. Its not that uncommon for a 16 year old girl to appear to be much older. An example of this is the Actress who played "Wrangler Jane" on the TV series "F Troop". If you are familar with that series Wrangler Jane had the appearance of a woman in her mid twenties, but in reality the actress Melody Patterson was a minor, she had lied about her age to get the job. Actor Larry Storch got into a bit of trouble when it was found he was having an affair with her. Melody Patterson was as tall as most of the men on the show, obviously physically mature, and had the personality and confidence of an adult. Just being drunk, and knowingly having sex with a girl you know to be under age, is no excuse. But being under the influence and thus your judgement impaired to the point that you don't make sure of the young ladies age could be a viable defense. Quote:
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CNN.com - Guilty of sex with student, teacher avoids prison - Nov 23, 2005
Remember this? This is disgusting. The 14 year old boy bangs his hot teacher 3 times in four days and she's guilty of being a child rapist. The kid probably bragged to his buddies endlessly about it. There is NO crime here. Quote:
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There is here a huge gulf between the realities of law enforcement and the 'tar & feather' impulses of the citizenry. In Canada, we have the silly spectacle of the 'tar & feather' crowd demanding absurd laws be passed (re: child porn) that just get struck down by the courts at the first opportunity, leaving no child porn law standing until a new one is enacted (and struck down again). No attempt is made to pass a law that is actually enforceable and will stand up to legal scrutiny. All that matters is the political pandering to the 'tar & feather' brigade that just doesn't know or care about the issue enough to become informed about it. I see no difference with the online-entrapment game. And given US DNA exoneration rates, I'd be a little hesitent about pouring tar & feathers on anyone 'found guilty' in the US court system these days. *I didn't vote in the poll as the issue is too complex for such simplistic and across-the-board type replies. As always, my reply to the poll question is not available in the poll choices given. Last edited by White Rabbit; 02-13-2008 at 11:41 AM. |
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?
In my opinion, this really is one of the most complicated issues that the judicial system faces. Everytime someone projects a blanketed statement regarding their choice of punishment, someone responds with a justifiable scenario that forces deeper thought.
What if the victim appears "of age" and willingly consents? What if the convicted individual later turns out to be innocent? If we begin establishing mandatory punishments for crimes like this, we end up ignoring all the gray area. That having been said, first-time admitted or videotaped child rapists deserve a life sentence.
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What if the boy was having sex with a male teacher? Still OK with all that?
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If the boy would have been upset about it, I think he would have every right to press charges and the female teacher should have been punished the same way a male teacher would have been punished. In the Debra LaFave situation, I heard the boy walked around with a shirt that read, "Why don't you ask my teacher why I got an A." He certainly didn't seem traumatized by that situation and I can't blame him. But different situations definitely require different solutions.
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But why the double standard?
Do you honestly believe that a 14 year-old boy is more capable of dealing with issues around sex than a 14 year-old girl.
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When making the law, it is important to disregard double-standards whenever we can. That being the case, I agree with you that it is important that males and females are prosecuted the same way with regard to sexual activity with minors. I'm only 4 1/2 years out of high school. It probably would not be fair for me to suggest that I would have been able to emotionally handle a sexual encounter with a teacher because I never encountered a situation like that. But I do remember how much I would have wanted to back then. And I definitely wasn't alone.
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Yeah, but kids want a lot of things that could be disastrous for them. It's part of being a kid. Just because a 14-year-old boy thinks that he wants sex with a much-older adult doesn't mean that he's capable of dealing with it.
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