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View Poll Results: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?
Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then death for a second offense. 1 3.70%
Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then life for a second offense. 2 7.41%
Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and death the second offense. 2 7.41%
Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and life in prison the second offense. 4 14.81%
Castration plus the death penalty 1 3.70%
Castration plus life in prison 1 3.70%
Just the death penalty. 4 14.81%
Just life in prison 4 14.81%
These people are sick they should be cured while they are incarcerated and then released. 3 11.11%
No more than what state law allows even if it is little or not time behind bars 0 0%
other 5 18.52%
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Lot of "no simple answers."

Which is a cop out.

The answer IS simple.

Some of us don't care to seem like we're favoring PERVERTS though so cop out and claim:

"Sorry, no simple answer."

How utterly chickenshit.
Yes, it takes guts to insist the world is black and white.

I don't have that kind of hubris.
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Yes, it takes guts to insist the world is black and white.

I don't have that kind of hubris.
This isn't "the world."

This is one very small issue of more capable humans criminal activity-treatment of other, weaker and less able humans.


Very simple.
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Lot of "no simple answers."

Which is a cop out.

The answer IS simple.

Some of us don't care to seem like we're favoring PERVERTS though so cop out and claim:

"Sorry, no simple answer."

How utterly chickenshit.
Well, it seems that a number of people who voted above you in the poll have a different "simple answer". Why are you suggesting that we coddle them by not executing and then castrating (or castrating and then executing)? That's pretty simple, too.
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Well, it seems that a number of people who voted above you in the poll have a different "simple answer". Why are you suggesting that we coddle them by not executing and then castrating (or castrating and then executing)? That's pretty simple, too.
Yes, pretty simple.

It's also not what we generally do in America. Only the most heinous people are executed (think John Wayne Gacy. Google that name and read all about it if you can stomach it.)

In any case, the best solution is to put these people away for life.

I guess we're not ready to do that yet.

We need more Joseph Duncans and others until we all get our heads together and REALIZE that the safest way to treat these criminals is to PERMANENTLY keep them away and unable to reach children.

EVER.

That means life sentences. One strike.

Very simple.
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We need more Joseph Duncans and others until we all get our heads together and REALIZE that the safest way to treat these criminals is to PERMANENTLY keep them away and unable to reach children.

EVER.

That means life sentences. One strike.

Very simple.
Yes that is simple.

Simple enough to satisfy the urge for blood vengence.

That's all that apparently matters. Facts be damned.
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Yes that is simple.

Simple enough to satisfy the urge for blood vengence.

That's all that apparently matters. Facts be damned.
How, exactly, does locking up dangerous molesters for life satisfy my, or ANYBODIES, want/need for "blood vengeance" ?

This is only about keeping kids safe.

Not what me, you or many people would like to personally DO to the creeps that molest kids.

Do tell me more about "facts"
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Yes, pretty simple.

It's also not what we generally do in America. Only the most heinous people are executed (think John Wayne Gacy. Google that name and read all about it if you can stomach it.)

In any case, the best solution is to put these people away for life.

I guess we're not ready to do that yet.

We need more Joseph Duncans and others until we all get our heads together and REALIZE that the safest way to treat these criminals is to PERMANENTLY keep them away and unable to reach children.

EVER.

That means life sentences. One strike.

Very simple.
Death is also very simple and it also PERMANENTLY keeps them away from children. You're coddling them, and your solution isn't simple enough. A bullet in the back of the head is very simple.
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Yes, pretty simple.

It's also not what we generally do in America. Only the most heinous people are executed (think John Wayne Gacy. Google that name and read all about it if you can stomach it.)

In any case, the best solution is to put these people away for life.

I guess we're not ready to do that yet.

We need more Joseph Duncans and others until we all get our heads together and REALIZE that the safest way to treat these criminals is to PERMANENTLY keep them away and unable to reach children.

EVER.

That means life sentences. One strike.

Very simple.
We need more Joseph Duncans?

This is the third time in two days I've seen the idea of "We need more of something terrible, so that we can stop something terrible."

In another thread, someone was saying America needs to be almost completely destroyed, just so we can get a government that will keep it from getting almost completely destroyed. Then another person was saying we need another big terrorist attack...so that we can prevent big terrorist attacks. Now we have you saying we need more child molesters...so that we can stop child molestation.

What is the deal?
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If you really love something, make sure it's completely obliterated?
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What is the deal?
Perhaps it isn't the destination, but rather the journey. Fixing the problem removes the soapbox, but if the problem can never be fixed (i.e. continued horrific reminders of the problem) the soap box can never be removed. Just look at MADD.

(Man, I just get more and more cynical all the time)
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Just means that you're growing up.
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Do tell me more about "facts"
You've never concerned yourself with such things in the past. Why change now?
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We need more Joseph Duncans?
Creepy, no ?

That we're in need of MORE people doing crimes like this before we decide to pull our heads out of our asses ?

Duncan was RELEASED BEFORE for previous perverse acts against kids.

We let him out. He did what he DID. because he is what he IS. A dangerous PERVERT.

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This is the third time in two days I've seen the idea of "We need more of something terrible, so that we can stop something terrible."
Yeah, you'd think we'd get a clue by now huh ?

No. We're STILL in the business of releasing dangerous perverts. We still don't seem to understand the simple concept of

"You reap what you sow."

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In another thread, someone was saying America needs to be almost completely destroyed, just so we can get a government that will keep it from getting almost completely destroyed. Then another person was saying we need another big terrorist attack...so that we can prevent big terrorist attacks. Now we have you saying we need more child molesters...so that we can stop child molestation.

What is the deal?
The deal is, semi-conscious people that choose to ignore or pretend that what is right in front of their faces doesn't exist, or is something ELSE.

Very simple problems with very simple solutions then become immensely complex and IMPOSSIBLE to solve. They'll never BE solved with this kind of non-thinking.

If you're truly interested (it doesn't seem that you are) in the issue study here:

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You've never concerned yourself with such things in the past. Why change now?
I notice you're choosing to address only one sentence of what I said:

How, exactly, does locking up dangerous molesters for life satisfy my, or ANYBODIES, want/need for "blood vengeance" ?

This is only about keeping kids safe.

Not what me, you or many people would like to personally DO to the creeps that molest kids.

Do tell me more about "facts".


To which you say:

You've never concerned yourself with such things in the past. Why change now?

Old.

Accuse others of exactly what YOU'RE guilty of.

Are you THAT bored ? Go play a video game.

Nevermind. It would seem that that's exactly what you think this IS.
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I notice you're choosing to address only one sentence of what I said:
Very observant of you.

I can't take your posts seriously, so I just play them for comedy. And I pick and choose which parts are best for that.

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Are you THAT bored ? Go play a video game.

Nevermind. It would seem that that's exactly what you think this IS.
Two clever observations in one post. You are perhaps brighter than I give you credit for.

And yes, replying to one of your posts is very much like playing a video game to me. That is to say, they are repetative, predictable and filled with flashy graphics and bright colors.

I usually prefer more substantial fare, but alas, USPO public forums are notably short of that these days, so sport it shall be.
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Death is also very simple and it also PERMANENTLY keeps them away from children. You're coddling them, and your solution isn't simple enough. A bullet in the back of the head is very simple.
That would be lovely.

You know as well as I that justice in America doesn't happen that way any longer.

We're supposedly more "civilized" now.

So civilized that we're confused about how to solve a VERY simple issue like this.

So civilized that we allow it to go on and act as if it's too complex to SOLVE.

So civilized that we let some of our children pay for our ongoing "confusion" over what is REALLY a simple problem.

We're too "civilized" to shoot dangerous perverts in the head and too civilized to stop allowing our children to get raped and sometimes MURDERED by perverts because WE let them out.

To do it again.

That's "civilized" for you
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