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View Poll Results: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?
Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then death for a second offense. 1 3.70%
Castration plus mandatory 25 year sentence and then life for a second offense. 2 7.41%
Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and death the second offense. 2 7.41%
Just a mandatory 25 year sentence for the first offense and life in prison the second offense. 4 14.81%
Castration plus the death penalty 1 3.70%
Castration plus life in prison 1 3.70%
Just the death penalty. 4 14.81%
Just life in prison 4 14.81%
These people are sick they should be cured while they are incarcerated and then released. 3 11.11%
No more than what state law allows even if it is little or not time behind bars 0 0%
other 5 18.52%
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

What about those "dangerous perverts" who are convicted, yet are actually innocent?
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

That's way there shouldn't be rape shield laws and stuff like that. If there's a conviction then yes they should be protected but if someon cries rape and found to be doing it get money or ruin someone's life they must be prosecued for it. Why something like Duke Lacross can happen is just so unacceptable its difficult to envision.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Women who falsely accuse men of rape deserve to spend several years of hard time in a male prison.

After a couple of weeks they would already feel like they've been fucked by a freight train.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Sometimes i wonder how men can't like that line of thinking, but obviously in the apologist society we live in we're too PC.

These insane sex crime laws have to come in line with our normal justice system, not this loony "one above the law" business.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Yes. Clearly a woman who is convicted of making a false claim deserves to be brutally gang raped over and over and over and over.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Sure, that's your prerogative to feel that way if you choose...personally i think that's over the line.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

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Women who falsely accuse men of rape deserve to spend several years of hard time in a male prison.

After a couple of weeks they would already feel like they've been fucked by a freight train.
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Sometimes i wonder how men can't like that line of thinking, but obviously in the apologist society we live in we're too PC.

These insane sex crime laws have to come in line with our normal justice system, not this loony "one above the law" business.
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Sure, that's your prerogative to feel that way if you choose...personally i think that's over the line.

Sorry you missed my sarcasm, but it seems you're the one who's agreeing.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

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What about those "dangerous perverts" who are convicted, yet are actually innocent?
What about people who have been convicted of ANY kind of crime ?

If you're expecting perfection, die and go to heaven.

Go live on a mountaintop and create your OWN little utopia.

Nowhere is justice perfect. Because humans aren't perfect.

We're supposedly "civilized" now.

So civilized that we're confused about how to solve a VERY simple issue like this ?

So civilized that we allow it to go on and act as if it's too complex to SOLVE ?

So civilized that we let some of our children pay for our ongoing "confusion" over what is REALLY a very simple problem ?

We're too "civilized" to stop allowing our children to get raped and sometimes MURDERED by perverts because WE let them out.

To do it again.

Sure.

Yeah.

We're "civilized" alright

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I agree with putting these people behind bars forever, but what about the potential for false accusations?

Unfortunately, this is a concern even today without a one strike law. But the statistics tell a different story. False allegations are infrequent and have been used successfully to scare the public who do want to strengthen laws concerning violent sex crimes or other violent crimes. Approximately .05% of all American prosecutions end in a false conviction. Compare that with the statistics that one in six children will be raped, molested or sodomized by the time they are 18 and shows that our focus needs to be on strengthening laws to protect the most defenseless and innocent of our citizens.

We must also understand there is a difference between false accusations and false convictions. Anyone can falsely accuse another person, but can they get a conviction?

Proposing a one strike law is legislation and false accusations/convictions is dealing with the judicial part of our system. Because of DNA evidence and the technology that crime investigators have at their disposal, the likelihood of false convictions have been considerably reduced.

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If we follow this logic through to its natural conclusion then we should eliminate all sentencing laws because someone might get falsely accused. So let's abolish all sentencing laws and even go a step further and abolish all programs. i.e. Boy Scouts, Church Camps, Day cares, etc., that deal with children because someone might be falsely accused and in addition to that abolish the act of child-bearing in marriage because a spouse might be falsely accused of a sex crime in a domestic dispute. If you truly believe in your logic you would be out campaigning to eliminate all sentencing laws because of the looming specter of false accusations.

Another important issue we must look at is if we are seeing a high number of false accusations then it is a direct result of too lenient sentencing laws concerning false accusers and false reporters. We must strengthen the laws dealing with false accusers and false reporting of crimes and include any government official using their office to falsely accuse any citizen. We must strengthen the laws concerning revengeful spouses falsely accusing their spouses in heated divorce proceedings.


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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Nice rant, CT.

My point was that, given the significant false conviction rate, perhaps irreversible actions like castration are not quite called for?
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That would be lovely.

You know as well as I that justice in America doesn't happen that way any longer.

We're supposedly more "civilized" now.

So civilized that we're confused about how to solve a VERY simple issue like this.

So civilized that we allow it to go on and act as if it's too complex to SOLVE.

So civilized that we let some of our children pay for our ongoing "confusion" over what is REALLY a simple problem.

We're too "civilized" to shoot dangerous perverts in the head and too civilized to stop allowing our children to get raped and sometimes MURDERED by perverts because WE let them out.

To do it again.

That's "civilized" for you
Still, you selected the wrong option in the poll. What I'm proposing is right and you're wrong. It's very simple. I'm right.
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Nice rant, CT.

My point was that, given the significant false conviction rate, perhaps irreversible actions like castration are not quite called for?
Whatever. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet and you have to execute (and perhaps castrate) a few innocent people in order to have a secure society.
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Re: What should we do to convicted child molesters/rapist?

Can we start with the conservatives, then?
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Nice rant, CT.

My point was that, given the significant false conviction rate, perhaps irreversible actions like castration are not quite called for?
No "rant."

Though you'd like to dismiss it as such.

Don't read it, call it a "rant"

I'm also not calling for castration. Which you'd know if you read anything I said.

Since you don't, you likely missed this too:

False allegations are infrequent and have been used successfully to scare the public who do want to strengthen laws concerning violent sex crimes or other violent crimes. Approximately .05% of all American prosecutions end in a false conviction. Compare that with the statistics that one in six children will be raped, molested or sodomized by the time they are 18 and shows that our focus needs to be on strengthening laws to protect the most defenseless and innocent of our citizens.

.... Approximately .05% of all American prosecutions end in a false conviction.

Proposing a one strike law is legislation and false accusations/convictions is dealing with the judicial part of our system. Because of DNA evidence and the technology that crime investigators have at their disposal, the likelihood of false convictions have been considerably reduced.

.... Because of DNA evidence and the technology that crime investigators have at their disposal, the likelihood of false convictions have been considerably reduced.

We must strengthen the laws dealing with false accusers and false reporting of crimes and include any government official using their office to falsely accuse any citizen. We must strengthen the laws concerning revengeful spouses falsely accusing their spouses in heated divorce proceedings.

.... strengthen the laws dealing with false accusers and false reporting of crimes...
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Whatever. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet and you have to execute (and perhaps castrate) a few innocent people in order to have a secure society.
Lets turn this ridiculous.

That will make it go away

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Still, you selected the wrong option in the poll. What I'm proposing is right and you're wrong. It's very simple. I'm right.
Ummm hmmm.

You're proposing there IS no right and wrong.

Thats all.

That only says confused. Not right or wrong.
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Whatever. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet and you have to execute (and perhaps castrate) a few innocent people in order to have a secure society.
0.05% of the population probably seems small until you're part of it. A friend got the wrong end of a child abuse case regarding a stepdaughter of a bitter ex-wife. It seemed a rather large travesty of justice when it involved someone I knew.

(not that I didn't appreciate your satire, I'm a big fan of that genre)
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