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Old 02-08-2008
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Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

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Child predators and pedophiles have always been in all areas of life, and in every profession. They often get jobs that involve children. I found a post at a pedophile message board that openly encourages these child predators to "infiltrate the teaching profession" because "This is where the poisoning is at its most insidious, and this is where an antidote of true childlove is most effective."

That’s right folks, the pedophiles and child molesters are organizing and instructing each other on how to become teachers so they can gain access to our kids. They feel it is their “duty to help these kids”.

Pedophiles and child molesters are finding ways to “legitimately” spend time with small children. Alone. They are now plotting ways to overtake society without revealing themselves.

Their slogan? "You'll be helping the kids, helping our cause, and enriching your life."

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Wake up people! Pedophiles and child molesters are in our schools. They are in our children’s organizations. They are our neighbors, coaches, counselors, pastors, mentors, uncles, brothers, parents, and friends. In other words, they are anyone and everyone, and they are everywhere.

Do not allow your child to be alone with an adult. Do not ignore your instincts. If you see or suspect suspicious behavior, put a stop to it and report it.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

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I found a post at a pedophile message board
I have no interest in clicking the link, but please tell me what's quoted in red is from the article, and not your own words...
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

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I have no interest in clicking the link, but please tell me what's quoted in red is from the article, and not your own words...
Whats quoted in red is from the article,if you clicked on the link and read the whole article instead of just the bits and pieces I posted you would know that.I would probably get banned in 2 seconds or however long it took a mod there to read my message if I went to one of those message boards.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

Oh, come on now.... as if pedophiles are some kind of organized group.

Of course there's NAMBLA, but outside of that, a pervert is a pervert & doesn't need to belong to an organized movement or be encouraged to find a way to be around children.

Anyone knows that being a teacher of some kind is the best way to be around kids for whatever reason one desires to.

Just yesterday in my area, a church custodian who also taught Bible study was shot & killed by the sherriff's dept. because they found out he was a previously convicted child molester from another state after a 7 y/o boy reported that he'd been molested by the guy. When the cops showed up to arrest him, he had a flare gun underneath a towel which he pointed at the deputies, forcing them to shoot him.

My point... this guy didn't need to belong to an organized group or be instructed on how to find children. They are everywhere. It doesn't take instructions from an organized group to figure out a way to gain access to them.

I'm guessing that if you read that somewhere, it's probably some weirdos blowing hot air for lack of anything better to do.

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Oh, come on now.... as if pedophiles are some kind of organized group.
They have groups.

Pro-pedophile activism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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* Danish Pedophile Association (or DPA Gruppe 04)
* Dutch Society for Sexual Reform
* Krumme 13
* North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)
* Paedophile Information Exchange
* Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia
* Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid & Diversiteit
* Rene Guyon Society
* Vereniging MARTIJN

They even have political groups

BBC NEWS | Europe | Dutch will allow paedophile group
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Judge HFM Hofhuis ruled that the Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity Party (PNVD) had the same right to exist as any other political party.
They have symbols
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They have internet radio,pro-pedophile propaganda booklets to distribute to children and charities to send children to camps so pedophiles can visit them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/te...gy/21pedo.html
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And they make use of technology to help take their arguments to others, like sharing online a printable booklet to be distributed to children that extols the benefits of sex with adults.

The community’s online infrastructure is surprisingly elaborate. There are Internet radio stations run by and for pedophiles; a putative charity that raised money to send Eastern European children to a camp where they were apparently visited by pedophiles; and an online jewelry company that markets pendants proclaiming the wearer as being sexually attracted to children, allowing anyone in the know to recognize them.

They also have tactics

Pro-pedophile activism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Adoption of value-neutral terminology
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Redefining the term child sexual abuse
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Promoting the idea that children can consent to sexual activity with adults.
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Questioning the assumption of harm
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Promoting "objective" research.
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Declassification of pedophilia as mental illness.
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Promoting understanding of the difference between pedophilia and sexual activity.
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Promoting the testimonies of people who claim no harm from sex as a minor.
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Referring to experiences of situations where adult-child sex interactions are not illegal, both historical and ethnical.
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Invoking ideas of continuity between pedophile and other minority activists.
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Pointing to juvenile sexual activity in the animal kingdom and invoking evolutionary arguments.





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Anyone knows that being a teacher of some kind is the best way to be around kids for whatever reason one desires to.


My point... this guy didn't need to belong to an organized group or be instructed on how to find children. They are everywhere. It doesn't take a genius to figure out a way to gain access to them.
I believe the article is talking about pedos infiltrating teaching positions for the purpose of indoctrinating.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

Wow. I didn't know about all of that.

Pretty sick.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

I have tried to find these groups using key words like pedophilia, but it turns out they call it 'child-adult sexual liberation'. I turned up this essay framed as 'research'...

I notice they try to equate their movement with the gay liberation movement. Some parts of this quotation are unbelievably galling.

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n recent years, these attitudes have begun to change. Gay liberation activists have targeted the homophobia of sexologists, along with other professionals. This has brought about a more accepting viewpoint, which is perhaps best illustrated by the proliferation of gay and lesbian caucuses among the professional organizations-such as the Society for the Scientific Study of Sexuality or the International Academy of Sex Research-to which sexologists belong.

There are no child-adult sexual liberation caucuses in these organizations. This remains a forbidden frontier. Most writers on child-adult sex use emotionally laden terms like "pedophilia" or "child sexual abuse," and most of their research attempts to measure the harm brought about by such activity. Bruce Rind, Philip Tromovitch, and Robert Baserman are among the few who have begun to question the supposed long-term effects of such activity on the children involved.

It is appropriate to undertake such research if only to wrest the terms of the debate from conservatives who have used pedophilia as a way to silence all attempts at sexual tolerance.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

A priest in my old hometown got 2 years in prison for child molesting. These people are everywhere. It's good to be aware so that people can protect their kids. For example, in my church during sunday school the doors were left open. The nursery had dutch doors and the top door was left open and the bottom shut. That way everyone can see into the rooms. This is to protect the kids, and to protect the adults from possible false reporting.
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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

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Wake up people! Pedophiles and child molesters are in our schools. They are in our children’s organizations. They are our neighbors, coaches, counselors, pastors, mentors, uncles, brothers, parents, and friends. In other words, they are anyone and everyone, and they are everywhere.

Do not allow your child to be alone with an adult. Do not ignore your instincts. If you see or suspect suspicious behavior, put a stop to it and report it.
The article implies child molesters are more organized then the actually are. Sure there are groups that advocate child molester's "rights" but membership to these groups represents a minority of molesters. In most cases these are not random occurrences, rather they are done by someone the child and parent know and trust.

I agree with the comment about reducing the possibility of anything happening by making sure that others have no opportunities. I don't agree with reporting things that one suspects. Claims of child abuse are extremely difficult to fight. Because of the severity of the crime, there is a tendency to have to prove ones innocence rather then be proven guilty.
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There has long been a tendency in Academia to promote the idea that Man/Boy love is natural because the Ancient Greeks practiced it, and that it was supposedly a socially acceptable practice.
Closer examination of the surviving writings which mention this sort of thing paints a very different picture.
Fathers would station armed slaves around their homes to prevent Pederasts from contacting their young sons. The Armed Slave could kill if necessary to protect the child of his master more easily than his master could in such a situation and with less repercussions. Greek Law was very strict when it can to one citizen killing another no matter what the cause.
The slave might very well be put to death, but these guards were picked because they would prefer to die than to allow one they had sworn to protect to come to harm.

Any young man who had willingly allowed himself to be sexually abused lost his rights as a Male Citizen, he would be considered a female and could not vote or seek office. He could not testify in court or own land.
If he accepted any sort of gift from his older male lover he would be branded a Prostitute. This stigma remained in effect for life.

Much is made of "The Sacred Band" an organization of homosexual lovers who fought as a unit.
While the fact that Philip of Macedon berated his men for making crude jokes about the Sacred Band after he'd defeated them in battle, the fact that his warriors looked down on them to begin with indicates that Homosexuality was not widely acceptable behavior in those days.

There are many other historical references which bear this out, yet for decades, perhaps centuries, only the hypothesis that Homsexuality and Pederasty were acceptable behavior among the ancient Greeks has been presented as fact when the subject came up.
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Sigh.

There are extensive background checks when one becomes a teacher. Even the accusation of inappropriate behavior can be career-ending. Teachers are taught to not be 1:1 with a student if avoidable, and to keep doors open if they are.
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Do not allow your child to be alone with an adult. Do not ignore your instincts. If you see or suspect suspicious behavior, put a stop to it and report it.
Last stats I saw said that in some 90% of child sexual abuse cases, the perpetrator is a family member.

Scaremongering about strangers in raincoats hiding in bushes is a strategy designed to protect parental/family abusers of children by diverting attention away from them.
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Last stats I saw said that in some 90% of child sexual abuse cases, the perpetrator is a family member.

Scaremongering about strangers in raincoats hiding in bushes is a strategy designed to protect parental/family abusers of children by diverting attention away from them.
Same type of strategy our government uses on adults.
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Last stats I saw said that in some 90% of child sexual abuse cases, the perpetrator is a family member.

Scaremongering about strangers in raincoats hiding in bushes is a strategy designed to protect parental/family abusers of children by diverting attention away from them.
Not entirely accurate.
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Most children are abused by someone they know and trust, although boys are more likely than girls to be abused outside of the family.2,5 A study in three states found 96 percent of reported rape survivors under age 12 knew the attacker. Four percent of the offenders were strangers, 20 percent were fathers 16 percent were relatives and 50 percent were acquaintances or friends. Among women 18 or older, 12 percent were raped by a family member, 33 percent by a stranger and 55 percent by an acquaintance.24
The victim is very likely to know the attacker but they attacker is very likely not to be a relative.
School teachers would fall under the aquaintance heading, as would priests and others a child comes into contact with through no choice of their own.

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Re: Pedophiles Encouraged to “Infiltrate” the Teaching Profession

Hmm.

Seeing as these groups like to play the "redefinition game", the point appears to be "use" not AB-use.

Then again, half the popular female celebrities out there are built like 10 year old boys....
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