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Old 03-06-2008
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No but say this had happened to you and someone else shot the burglar, would you be upset?
I'm with pramjockey. I'd be livid.
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That's because you foolishly believe a criminal's life is worth a damn.
What if the burglars had been 13 year old kids?
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

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Or maybe his question is completely irrelevant to the situation and doesn't take into account that the criminal is not the same as an innocent murder victim.
I was simply talking about the motives of folks defending this law. I know it's the law in Texas. I also know that the guys were criminals. But, there are many possibilities for the motives of folks who support it. I simply showed one of many possibilities. Personally, I don't think burgulars deserve to die for their crimes. As you and I differ in this opinion, that doesn't mean either of us is a bad person. See?
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

[quote=Traveler;1174901]Tell me something Americano, is someone who gets an abortion also a murderer?

No. I don't consider it human life until it functions outside the womb on its own.

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I mean what sort of a whore would stoop to the depths of destorying the poor life of an unborn child (no medical issues here) and then have the nerve to be upset at someone killing a burglar, i mean is that a double standard?
How do you know a woman took money for a sex act that resulted in pregnancy? Your Christian dogma is clouding the issue, as is your unwillingness to allow a woman her choice of responsibility.

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What about folks in your state who legalised Euthinasia, or those who have had suicide attempts, are they really scumbags too? I mean how low are they on your scale? (I mean this seriously btw, i wanna know where you rank all these scumbags of society for going after human life).
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No but say this had happened to you and someone else shot the burglar, would you be upset?
Yes, I would...if it was over material possessions.
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I'm with pramjockey. I'd be livid.
That's fine and i respect that you wouldn't have wanted it to happen. Personally if it was me (unlikely but if it was) and my neighbor hadshot the burglar i wouldn't shed a single tear. I guess we're just kind of different to the rest of you...maybewe look out for one another more than ya'll or its more of a neighborhood thing but i would never be upset at a burglar being killed, so long as it was lawful.
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Yes, I would...if it was over material possessions.
That's fair enough. For me i would always worry that it were things never replacable but everyone has their right to use restrain.
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That's fine and i respect that you wouldn't have wanted it to happen. Personally if it was me (unlikely but if it was) and my neighbor hadshot the burglar i wouldn't shed a single tear. I guess we're just kind of different to the rest of you...maybewe look out for one another more than ya'll or its more of a neighborhood thing but i would never be upset at a burglar being killed, so long as it was lawful.
We look after each other on my street but when we see suspicious activity, we call the police and let them do the job they're paid to do.
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That's because you foolishly believe a criminal's life is worth a damn.
A starving person after bread should be killed?
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That's fair enough. For me i would always worry that it were things never replacable but everyone has their right to use restrain.
Would you want your neighbor to kill to 13 year old boys that broke into your house?
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That's fine and i respect that you wouldn't have wanted it to happen. Personally if it was me (unlikely but if it was) and my neighbor hadshot the burglar i wouldn't shed a single tear. I guess we're just kind of different to the rest of you...maybewe look out for one another more than ya'll or its more of a neighborhood thing but i would never be upset at a burglar being killed, so long as it was lawful.
Or maybe you're just trigger happy and don't value human life.
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

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And I disagree. If my neighbor killed someone on my property who was no direct threat to my life (or that of someone else on my property) I'd be furious.
Somehow you remind me of Tim McManus.
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No. I don't consider it human life until it functions outside the womb on its own.
That's fine, so you think the unborn child has no rights? Kind of something else we have differing views on in Texas...i guess each to their own, if you think abortion is fine then that's your consience to try and justify it to.

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How do you know a woman took money for a sex act that resulted in pregnancy? Your Christian dogma is clouding the issue, as is your unwillingness to allow a woman her choice of responsibility.
Its not Christian dogma or even the issue of abortion itself, but seeing as you mentioned an aroma of hypocrasy i wanna know if you think someone who had an abortion who would be oppossed to this killing would be a hypocrite, simple question.

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Individual, personal choice dependent on health issues, no harm to another.
So if it doesn't harm anyone else then anyone should have the right to do what they want? So i guess if it was you then you wouldn't shoot anyone at all and let them roll you over and take everything you have?
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Would you want your neighbor to kill to 13 year old boys that broke into your house?
This is the one aspect that i haven't thought about...if it was a kid, yeah well that is another matter i guess.

In this instance they were grown men but yes if involving children (those that do deserve more leniancy, even under our laws) it is something to air on the side of caution.
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