Well our own laws have even scrapped the juvenile death penalty so we can't execute anyone until 18. (Unless tried as an adult which is difficult but your state sure tries hard).

But what if it was a kid entering into a property, breaking in? What if he is armed or is a big kid, somebody who could really harm someone inside?

Do try to stay in context.

I have also stated REPEATEDLY that this doesnt apply to misdemeanor violations.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Like what?

If it's personal feel free not to answer. I'm just curious.

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"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

We're also talking about the fact that Horn shot men who were fleeing (and lunging at him ) because they broke into his NEIGHBOR'S house. He wasn't trying to recover property stolen from him, he was just hell-bent on killing these guys. If they had been 13 year old kids, I can almost guarantee that many Texans would be upset...

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Only the laws of God.

With their backs turned at him they posed no threat, and its not evident that he had to shoot them in order to recover the stolen shit.

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It all comes down to this on election day: Are you a racist, or do you look down on spastics?

Well...i guess that would be what the laws defines as acceptable and you then have no choice but to work within the parameters of those laws.

Our own state lawmakers may take the issue of vehicular protection soon, its been discussed and sort of looked at with nothing happening.

So where do you draw the line then?

I'm not talking about the law.

I'm talking about you. What do you own that you would kill somebody to protect?

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"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

I would call the police and pray they got there in time. If they entered MY house, then I would hold them at gunpoint and if they made any move to harm me, then I'd have to shoot them. Of course, if they were armed, I'd have no choice but to shoot them first, IF they were in MY house.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Apparently he said to them to freeze and they did lunge at him, they moved at angle which he said he fired constantly (where he had the gun aimed) and when he fired that led the bullet to pierce the guy in the back. That's what hisversion was but it was never disputed ot seen as madeup by the Texas authorities.

You wouldn't try and stop them if it was someone else's house?

You wouldn't even draw and scream at them to freeze so it drew enough attention from others?

I really don't buy his version given the time frame.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Probably nothing but that's me personally (others may well choose toshoot), i would still have the scope of the law on my side if i chose to shoot and would only ever do it if the law was on my side when it comes to something personal.

I can't see myself shooting for any items but if it was to protect a loved one or just anyone who could be harmed then you betcha i'd fire.

Anything - my home is my home. If someone feels they have the right to violate it to take my stuff, it is my duty to remind them they do not. if they die in the process of that reminder, too bad.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

God doesnt have a problem with killing thieves.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

I wasn't aware the country belonged to AQ funded and led terrorists....or even the insurgents....

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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