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Old 03-06-2008
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You wouldn't try and stop them if it was someone else's house?

You wouldn't even draw and scream at them to freeze so it drew enough attention from others?
I didn't tell the kid that broke into the house across the street to stop. If I had, he would have ran, just like he did when the police told him to stop. Then what? The cops would have had to expend even more manpower looking for him if I scared him off. Instead, I let them handle the job and when he ran, they had him in their sights at all times and the fact that it was about 20 degrees that morning and the dumb idiot jumped a fence landing in the neighbor's filled swimming pool made their job much easier.
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Anything - my home is my home. If someone feels they have the right to violate it to take my stuff, it is my duty to remind them they do not. if they die in the process of that reminder, too bad.
Lets make a little test: A burglar runs away from your house with the $5 ashtray grandma gave you for Christmas. What would you do?
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

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I didn't tell the kid that broke into the house across the street to stop. If I had, he would have ran, just like he did when the police told him to stop. Then what? The cops would have had to expend even more manpower looking for him if I scared him off. Instead, I let them handle the job and when he ran, they had him in their sights at all times and the fact that it was about 20 degrees that morning and the dumb idiot jumped a fence landing in the neighbor's filled swimming pool made their job much easier.
That's fair enough, he sounds more moronic than dangerous tbh but what if he wound up harming the folks inside the place he was gonna break into? Say it was somebody with a weapon?
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Horn's story is so fucked.

I think the undercover cop is backing up Horn just as a matter of convenience. The paperwork and the investigation would probably eat up too many dollars.
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I really don't buy his version given the time frame.
Yeah i mean i didn't think about it that much but he said when he told them to freeze they were at an angle anyway but at a possible angle to attack him and they moved after he told them they'd die if they did, and with his gun aimed in directly the same position as before (not moving it at all to adjust for their movements because of the very short amount of time) he fired which hit them at a diagnol point in the back.
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That's fair enough, he sounds more moronic than dangerous tbh but what if he wound up harming the folks inside the place he was gonna break into? Say it was somebody with a weapon?
I've never been faced with that situation (the people weren't home when the kid broke in...) but I would hope that I would have enough sense not to place myself in danger also....
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Yup that was the best point anybody has made in this, which is you could also put yourself in danger too and sometimes it does happen that the person trying to protect someone does get hurt.
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Yeah i mean i didn't think about it that much but he said when he told them to freeze they were at an angle anyway but at a possible angle to attack him and they moved after he told them they'd die if they did, and with his gun aimed in directly the same position as before (not moving it at all to adjust for their movements because of the very short amount of time) he fired which hit them at a diagnol point in the back.
I haven't seen the bodies so I can't really address the angles only to say that one story did say that they were shot at different angles. Regardless, Horn seemed thrilled to be able to try out the new law and that's what I find sickening...
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Hmmm...not sure about that, i think its more a case of his just sheer insistance not to let them go or to stay in his own house.

See maybe the dispatcher telling him to stay indoors didn't help either; see the police weren't there and all the while this guy keeps telling to stay inside and everything would be okay.

The one aspect nobody has even bothered to look at is how long it took for them to get there.
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Anything - my home is my home. If someone feels they have the right to violate it to take my stuff, it is my duty to remind them they do not. if they die in the process of that reminder, too bad.
So you catch a kid in your driveway stealing the valve-stem-caps off your tires (they're maybe $.05 apiece. You kill him?

Please, do us all a favor and keep that style of "Justice" in Texas. It has no place in the civilized world.
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Hmmm...not sure about that, i think its more a case of his just sheer insistance not to let them go or to stay in his own house.

See maybe the dispatcher telling him to stay indoors didn't help either; see the police weren't there and all the while this guy keeps telling to stay inside and everything would be okay.

The one aspect nobody has even bothered to look at is how long it took for them to get there.
Judging from the call, it took officers about 7-8 minutes to arrive, which IMO, is reasonable time. Horn stated to the dispatcher that he was going to kill the guys which definitely leads me to think he was lying about them going after him. Especially since he tells the dispatcher that one is laying in the neighbor's yard and the other one was going down the street. While the law may allow you to protect your property, I think Horn is nothing more than a vigilante hellbent on murder.
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

The law also allows us to protect other's property too, our law is very open.

He's not a vigelante unless he did break the law, which he didn't imo.

As for saying he would kill them, well he did but was allowed to do so, he did later say he did think they would come for him so i guess that's reasonable grounds under the law.

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While the law may allow you to protect your property, I think Horn is nothing more than a vigilante hellbent on murder.
I am glad we agree on this, M, whatever our differences.
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