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YOU are the one who responded to my post accusing you of endorsing his behavior by saying that some people prefer the easy way. Explain what you meant by that if you believe my interpretation was incorrect.
What's there to explain? Are you saying you can't comprehend the sentence: Some people choose the easy way out? THAT'S FUCKING INCREDIBLE.
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Well it is a firearm. It's a hand cannon that fires tennis balls.
It's called the FN 303, a compressed air launcher, not a firearm. It uses compressed air, like a bb gun, to launch a projectile. It uses no form of explosive device to propel it's projectile.They are effective out to 200 yards. They are excellent for pain complaince, but a determined resistor can take quite a few hits and escape. They can be lethal within 30 yards if fired at the head, neck, or spine.
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Interesting thought, completely hypothetical but suppose the reason he shot them was simply because he wanted to kill somebody and he's using defense of property thing as a cover...has he committed murder or not ?
In the case you stated above, in my opinion the answer would be yes.
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What's there to explain? Are you saying you can't comprehend the sentence: Some people choose the easy way out? THAT'S FUCKING INCREDIBLE.
I can comprehend it - and I explained to you how I interpreted it. If you meant something else, by all means, feel free to clarify. I have asked you to do this 3 times now.
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Where's "important" in there?

Oh, and how much property is worth taking a life over? If I steal a candy bar, should I be shot?

A CD?

An iPod?

A laptop?

A car?

Where's the line? How much is a human life worth?
My 3 thousand dollar laptop with all my work files from the last two years on it is indeed worth someones life, if they are breaking into my property to take it.

Now, if I set it down somewhere and walk away forgetting it, and they take it, that's my loss, and I would not physically confront them. I would call the police and ask them to retrieve it for me.

My $40,000 truck is definatly worth someones life. It is my means to provide for my family.

My 3 thousand dollar car, well, I WANT someone to steal that piece of shit. ( that's a joke, but I wouldn't kill someone over it, unless they were forcefully trying to remove me from it)

My motorcycle is in the same category as my car.
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My 3 thousand dollar laptop with all my work files from the last two years on it is indeed worth someones life, if they are breaking into my property to take it.

Now, if I set it down somewhere and walk away forgetting it, and they take it, that's my loss, and I would not physically confront them. I would call the police and ask them to retrieve it for me.
Seems pretty logical to me, and well within the law in the State of Texas.

People seem to want to forget that the criminal is not just stealing your property, but also all the time and money which went into acquiring that property and the time and money which must go into replacing said property. This is hardly trivial.

I dont know about you, but I'm not going to expect the guy to stop and let me decide what he can keep and what he can't. He's either going to stop what he's doing and leave, or he's going to get shot. Its really that simple.
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Fucking your wife's sister is not criminal either. Is that the right thing to do?
If she's hot and the wife is willing.....
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My motorcycle is in the same category as my car.
Really? what kinda bike? I could be talked into taking it off your hands.

Someone tries to take either of my bikes and they're DEFINITELY getting shot....
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What if the burglars had been 13 year old kids?
Most of my neighbors, when I was a youg 'un, had shotguns loaded with rock salt for this very scenario. There were lots of kids, and dogs, that had welts on them from trespassing, especially in the night.

As an additional benefit, In the daytime, after being salted, your parents got a call. Then, you wished you really had been shot.

By the way, there were always the real deal shells in the property owners pocket, just in case you didn't take the warning seriously.
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Really? what kinda bike? I could be talked into taking it off your hands.

Someone tries to take either of my bikes and they're DEFINITELY getting shot....
91 CBR 600 F2. 42,000 miles. Been wrecked twice ( by me), put back together amateurishly ( by me) with plastic weld and rattle can paint. One of the ugliest things on the road.
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91 CBR 600 F2. 42,000 miles. Been wrecked twice ( by me), put back together amateurishly ( by me) with plastic weld and rattle can paint. One of the ugliest things on the road.
Well if its mechanically sound and just ugly as sin ....

I'd just take the fairing off anyway
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Mrs. M has also asked the question several times:

How do you lunge AT someone and flee FROM them at the same time?
Easy,, ,you lunge, he brings the weapon up and fires as you turn away.
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I can comprehend it - and I explained to you how I interpreted it. If you meant something else, by all means, feel free to clarify. I have asked you to do this 3 times now.
It's one of those statements that really is too simple to explain. You didn't "interpret" the statement, you made up some ridiculous shit based off of what I said.

So let's review...

Horn's story is so fucked.

I think the undercover cop is backing up Horn just as a matter of convenience. The paperwork and the investigation would probably eat up too many dollars.
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Easy,, ,you lunge, he brings the weapon up and fires as you turn away.
People seem to think the shooting part is instantaneous.

Shooter sees action by dead guy. That action took place about 3/4 of a second before it registered on shooter's brain.

Shooter brings up shotgun.

Dead guy's reactions upon seeing the shotgun coming up are fueled by adrenaline and he probably reacts a LITTLE quicker, say 1/2 second after seeing the gun come up.

By the time he reacts, the gun is up and the trigger is being squeezed - keep this in mind.

Trigger gets pulled. Now at this point, approximately 3/4 to 1 second have passed since the gun was brought up. That is ample time for the target to move, but NOT enough for the shooter to stop the action of pulling the trigger. Target gets shot, but now his torso has been turned.

I know you know this SomeMarine, i'm posting this for the others who dont think.
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It's one of those statements that really is too simple to explain. You didn't "interpret" the statement, you made up some ridiculous shit based off of what I said.

So let's review...

Horn's story is so fucked.

I think the undercover cop is backing up Horn just as a matter of convenience. The paperwork and the investigation would probably eat up too many dollars.
Ahh - you were responding to a different post than you quoted - got it. Now i understand why you made that comment, and why i interpreted it the way i did. In light of a different context, yes, that makes more sense.

Horn's story is not fucked by any means. The cop isnt going to simply skip out on the paperwork if he had a definite murder conviction in front of him.

You just don't LIKE Horn's story because you don't want to believe his actions were 100% legal.
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