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Old 03-07-2008
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

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Nope. And I thought that I made that perfectly clear. I am speaking not of what a criminal is stealing from you losing his life; rather what that criminal is stealing from others and his loss of life in the process at another's hand. Yes, it's legal, but is it just? If he were arrested and tried, the courts in Texas would not sentence him to death for burglary.
All I can say is " Boo Fucking Hoooo" for the burglars. They were criminals, doing criminal activities. No, they wouldn't have been sentenced to death by the state, they probably would have got 30 days in a nice little cell. But they miscalculated, and were sentenced to death by a man following ( even if loosely) what the law, which he helped pass, allows him to do.

If I noticed my neighbors house being burglared, I would confront them. If they came at me, I would shoot them. I have no idea if my neighbor was home at the time, there are dudes doing nefarious deeds, I don't know if my neighbor is dead and his wife raped and dead. All I see are two dudes coming out of his house with his property. They forfeit their lives if they don't do EXACTLY as I tell them to.

They run, they die. They come at me, they die. If they do anything besides lay down and shut the hell up, they die.

Cavalier attitude? To some, yes. To me, no, it is a very pragmatic way of looking at the world. Respect me and be polite, and I'll respect you and be polite. Disrespect me and be rude, and expect some sort of confrontation.

The world would be a much more civil place, in my opinion, if everyone lived by these rules.
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.... Respect me and be polite, and I'll respect you and be polite. Disrespect me and be rude, and expect some sort of confrontation....
If your use of "you" is the general use, I agree. If your use of it is referring to me, I'm confused about it.
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

General use my man. Not aimed specifically at you, but at humanity in general.

Kinda like the collective understood portion of the language.
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General use my man. Not aimed specifically at you, but at humanity in general.

Kinda like the collective understood portion of the language.
Thanks for clarifying; I appreciate it! Ya never can tell about folks on forums, so thanks.
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Yeah, unfortunatly, I type what goes through my head in the fashion as if I was actually talking, and sometimes it doesn't go over the intended way. Sorry for the confusion.
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Yeah, unfortunatly, I type what goes through my head in the fashion as if I was actually talking, and sometimes it doesn't go over the intended way. Sorry for the confusion.
No prob!!!! Absolutely correct...without the body english and tone queues, things can get easily misunderstood.
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All I can say is " Boo Fucking Hoooo" for the burglars. They were criminals, doing criminal activities. No, they wouldn't have been sentenced to death by the state, they probably would have got 30 days in a nice little cell. But they miscalculated, and were sentenced to death by a man following ( even if loosely) what the law, which he helped pass, allows him to do.

If I noticed my neighbors house being burglared, I would confront them. If they came at me, I would shoot them. I have no idea if my neighbor was home at the time, there are dudes doing nefarious deeds, I don't know if my neighbor is dead and his wife raped and dead. All I see are two dudes coming out of his house with his property. They forfeit their lives if they don't do EXACTLY as I tell them to.

They run, they die. They come at me, they die. If they do anything besides lay down and shut the hell up, they die.

Cavalier attitude? To some, yes. To me, no, it is a very pragmatic way of looking at the world. Respect me and be polite, and I'll respect you and be polite. Disrespect me and be rude, and expect some sort of confrontation.

The world would be a much more civil place, in my opinion, if everyone lived by these rules.
I couldn't care less that those two burglars are dead, but that guy had no business shooting them in the back as they were running away, especially when it wasn't even his house, & the 911 operator told him to stay inside.

It was a truly ignorant act on the part of an ignorant old coot who was probably just itchin to kill someone.

He'll probably lose everything he owns when he gets his ass sued for wrongful death. And I hope he does. He deserves it.

The idiot.
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I don't think our troops actually own their weapons, but I bet they know how to shoot. Just because one hasn't or doesn't own a gun, doesn't mean they don't know how to shoot or use it. One of my best friends never owned a gun, but scored quite high when she participated in her marksmanship competitions when she was in high school.
Everyone knows that the troops don't own their GI weapons but there's no rule that says they can't own personal weapons.
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Why all the worrying about the burglar? If he's hungry, ask me for money, and I'll give him what I've got. If his family is hungry, I'll take him to the grocery store for a shopping spree. But, if he steals my stuff, or tries taking it from me by force..... he's given up his right to compassion and empathy.
Very well put. It starts with a little compassion, but there is a limit to that. I agree completely.
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Old 03-08-2008
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Perhaps if Texas used whipping as punishment for thefts and burglaries there would be a lot fewer?

I know for fact that its a kind of punishment that criminals are very affraid of.
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Old 03-08-2008
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Wow....you're in favor of corporal punishment?
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Old 03-08-2008
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Wow....you're in favor of corporal punishment?
Why not? It seems weird to approve of the death penalty and to be squeamish about a little corporal punishment.
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Re: Texan 'hero' shoots and kills burglars at neighbours'

Well i didn't give my own view on it; i didn't say i as against it or for it.

But that's why i like Wallaroo, in some ways he can be ever more brutal than even the most sadistic of folks!
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Well i didn't give my own view on it; i didn't say i as against it or for it.

But that's why i like Wallaroo, in some ways he can be ever more brutal than even the most sadistic of folks!
Well, IMO, corporal punishment is certainly not as brutal as the death penalty. Not that I approve of it, but I can see why Wallaroo wonders why you guys don't use it.
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Wow....you're in favor of corporal punishment?
Why not indeed? They use it in a very large scale in many (mostly Arabic) third world countries, and it really seems to have an effect.

Instead of sending people who have committed bad, but less than severe crime to a 2 x 3 meter cell for several years (which IMO must be a lot worse and definitely more expensive), they punish it with a certain amount of whiplashes on the back. Whiplashes are extremely painful, but not something that would handicap the convicted.
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