And they were burglars, all the more reason why I suspect this will be the case.

I think these videos shows much towards that:

YouTube - Joe Horn Supporters Run Off Black Panthers (Uncut Version)

YouTube - joe horn rally quanell x passadena WARNING! GRAPHIC

It's crystal clear Horn shot these men simply because they were burglars and felt they should die for their crime. According to other research I've reviewed plus the whole 911 tape, he wanted to shoot them, went outside with that purpose, and shot them both in the back (one of them twice in the back) knowing they were unarmed. He shot them just as the police were arriving on the scene just to make sure he finished them off.

Yet, I think you are likely going to be right. The fact that Quanell X of the New Black Panther Party--a notorious racist and race baiter--was the black leader of the protest makes it even more personal on a race issue that many would like to 'win' to show 'the other' up.

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Are you saying that your neighbor would do the same for you? I thought you moved to Louisiana?

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In what other states could he have gotten away with that?

It poses a great threat to justice and the society in general that this man wont be convicted for his double murder. When ordinary citizens can get away with more than cops, then we have anarchy.

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No, but Texas law most certainly DOES allow the use of deadly force to prevent the theft of property.

Killing a criminal while he is committing a crime is not the same as the state sentencing someone to death. The rules of due process do NOT apply.

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What he did was still highly unnecessary. He should have made a citizens arrest instead.

What would you do if you saw burglars in your neighbours house?

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Shooting a criminal in the back as he runs away is the same as sentencing him to death for his property crime - it just does away with all that sticky judicial stuff.

Mr. Horn decided to be the judge, jury and executioner. His intent - as he clearly told the dispatcher - was to kill both suspects before he ever left his house.

And then he went out and carried out his sentence on the two burglars, deliberately and with premeditation.

IMHO, he belongs in a cell. And just about anywhere but Texas, that's where he would be.

Matt

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No it isn't.
Mr. Horn witnessed a crime IN PROGRESS and exercised a portion of state law which allows the use of lethal force to recover property.

The reason the judge and jury are there, and we require due process, is because the criminal was not caught during the commission of a crime, but rather after the fact. The crime has to be proven to have occurred, and further has to proven by disinterested parties. When a citizen sees the crime in progress, there is no question as to guilt.
Again, there was no sentence.
Glad your opinion doesn't count.
And we LIKE it that way.

I have no sympathy for a criminal who gets an acute case of lead poisoning during the commission of a crime.

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No provision for that in state code.
Depends upon the situation. Had I been in Horn's shoes, in a neighborhood which had been dealing with a number of recent home burglaries, i may very well decide to take the same course of action.

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Ordinary citizens should "get away" with more than cops as law enforcement should be held to a higher standard.

At the very least, it should be equal, and if a cop shoots a criminal in the middle of a crime, we don't hear anything else about it.

There was nothing "gotten away" with here. Horn acted within the law. That some don't like the fact that this is the law is really just too damn bad.

A lot of people also don't like that one can use lethal force to resist arrest if he believes the arrest is unlawful, but that is still the law in Texas.

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I'll have to be in a desperate situation before I ever visit Texas. I've had to "break into" my own place because I didn't have keys.

In Texas some bozo would have hunted me down and shot me in the back twice.

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There was no question as to guilt. I'll grant you that.

But Horn clearly told the dispatcher he was going to kill the burglars well before he ever left the house.

He determined that they qualified for the Joe Horn Death Penalty, and he went out with the premeditated intent to kill them both.

Any way you cut it, Mr. Horn judged that their crime merited death - and then he carried out his own personal sentence upon them.

Nothing remotely heroic there.

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He seems rather like a megalomaniac in what he did. If it gets to court, hopefully, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

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I don't consider him a hero. I just consider him a fellow Texan who is more than welcome to move next door to me.

The man stepped up and did the job we pay the police to do. Ultimately, this is what bothers some people, and for some foolish reason, rather than directing their displeasure at the government for doing its job in its typical lackluster fashion, they vent their ire at the man who did the right thing.

So what really bothers you Matt? That Mr. Horn took out the trash, or that you don't have the stones to do what he did so you have to belittle him to make yourself feel better?

You don't need to answer me - that question is more for your own personal reflection.

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No charges have been filed and none will be. We like our criminals dead down here.

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