Never been in a gun fight have ya? I promise you, it is very simple for someone to turn away as you are pulling the trigger, causing you to hit them in the back.

By the way, after being hit with a shotgun at anything over ten meters, it is very likely for the target to be able to keep going for a while. Try it out sometime, you'll be amazed at the shit a human can do after being shot.

I've seen dudes keep fighting after recieving a failure drill. *** Edit** A failure drill is two shots to the chest, and one to the head. The two to the chest are hammer pairs, meaning two shots with the same sight picture, your finger is going as fast as it can twitch. The headshot is in rapid succession, using a new sight picture. This creates overwhelming shock, shutting down the nervous system of the body like flipping a light switch. A hammer drill is usually performed in about 1 second.

We had a Marine keep fighting for almost 15 minutes after the bottom of his heart was shot out.

In real life, people don't usually automatically drop like they do in the movies after taking a shot, unless it's a headshot with a 50 cal. I ain't never seen anyone even so much as twitch after taking one of those.

In other words, you are throwing a whole lot of uninformed speculation onto a subject you are uncomfortable with, to try and make it fit your personal views.

By the way, in Texas, if someone is on your property breaking the law, you don't necessarily even have to be in danger to shoot them.

Nope - and remaining ignorant and being wrong is your right.
You REALLY don't know anything about guns or combat do you?
You'll get your head bashed in. You know nothing about firearms, and I know this. You have already stated you would fire a warning shot and i would take advantage of that too. I know you don't have the will to actually shoot someone and yes, i will use that to my advantage.
It wont.
I will.

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The sworn testimony of the cop and the grand jury disagree.

The decision to shoot them was made while they were advancing. While they may have turned and ran while Horn was bringing the gun up, he had already committed to pulling the trigger while they were making an overt and aggressive move.

Either way, they were on his property with criminal intent. That alone justifies the shooting

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Then, once again, he shot them in the back, as they were moving off of his property. My point still stands.How is any of that relevant?

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Sure, and if it were legal to shoot people because you don't like them, this guy would probably be on the right side of the law, too. My point is that this was NOT done in bodily self-defense, regardless of your claim that Horn was as dumb as a door knob since he can only act on decisions after a huge delay. This brings us back to my earlier question:

Do you wish to argue that I have the right to ask a trespassing jogger to stop, and then shoot them in the back because instead of becoming my prisoner, they decided to simply leave my property?

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It isnt legal to shoot them just because you dont like them.

Horn IS on the right side of the law anyway.
Huge delay? Not quite Slon. That can - and DOES - happen in a split second. Again, there was a police officer's sworn testimony which indicated they were on his property, approached him and then turned to run as he shot them. Simple as that.
No, because that is a completely different scenario. You're trying to ignore the criminal behavior which was part of Horn's decision.

Had Horn shot some guy who was just walking across his lawn, the outcome in the court would have been VERY different.

As it is, he shot two men whom he had observed robbing his neighbor's house after they crossed onto his property and advanced on him - at least one of them was armed.

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Yep, and I'm not disputing that. Given how fired projectiles travel, and given the small distance, it's rather clear that the two trespassers turned around BEFORE he fired.Fine. Let's say Horn knew that the jogger on his property has unpaid parking tickets.Theft does not make any indication of violent crime. You might as well say he saw them jaywalk before they got onto his property.

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Even if he did, it is irrelevant. They need not be a threat. Lethal force is allowed to stop the criminal.
The real question is, why cant the jogger stay the hell off of property which he knows is not his?
Really? What do YOU call the forcible taking of another's property?

Theft, especially theft from a person's home, is most definitely a violent crime. Just because there is no direct violence done to the victim, do not make the mistake of thinking he has not been harmed.
Again, irrelevant from a legal perspective. They were on his property, uninvited, and had been observed to be in the commission of a felony. In addition, two young men - armed or not - is a legitimate threat to a single man, especially one of Horn's age. Last but not least, one of them DID threaten him and advance on him with a crowbar.

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Which brings me to the next question which you dodged below.No, the question remains:
Do you wish to argue that I have the right to ask a trespassing jogger to stop, and then shoot them in the back because instead of becoming my prisoner, they decided to simply leave my property? Say Horn knew that the jogger on his property has unpaid parking tickets.

Please don't dodge this time.

Exactly what it was called in the article: burglary. Burglary does not involve taking items from people by force with those people present, as that is robbery.I'm sorry, but there was no violence involved. A burglary is not the same as a robbery. And no, having your stuff stolen does not necessarily mean that there was violence committed again you, personally.Fine, then answer my question about the jogger above.Irrelevant. Those two young men already turned to leave before Horn fired. They were as much of a "threat" as any two young men on the planet that can reasonably reach him. He might as well open fire on any people strong enough to overpower him, regardless of circumstances.Anything following their act to turn and leave is not self-defense, but revenge.

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Have you ever stolen anything or scammed someone, (and be honest please)? How often do you go to church?

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I'm not so sure. I've been robbed and lost things - not massively financially valuable - that had been in my family for generations. Why is that ok? You don't wanna get shot - don't steal what other people own. I'm not sure that I would not have shot the SOB - or even that I wouldn't now if I had the opportunity!

Maybe I'm just a bad person!

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Don't want your hand amputated, don't steal.

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