Yes....kind of a major point you may wish to consider.

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Even ATTEMPTING to shoot someone in the leg indicates you're a complete idiot.

The only place that works is in the movies. The leg is an extremely small target and way too easy to miss.
He threatened them with his car? Just a thought.

Did you completely ignore that fact? Do you really think a car is NOT a weapon?

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

The fact that you would even consider shooting someone in the leg as an alternative is proof that you don't know the first fucking thing about the use of deadly force...

Where did I consider doing that, Steve? All I did was point out that it was theoretically possible to shoot someone in the leg.And this is proof that you can't read to save your life.

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Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Getting into your car equates to threatening someone?Once again, according to the article, they were pointing their guns at him BEFORE he moved his car in a threatening manner in their direction.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

When you've been told to stop, yes.
He was lawfully ordered to stop. He ignored this order. At that point, the police have the duty to force compliance. If this cannot be done verbally, then force - or the threat of force - must be used.

The moment he chose not to comply, whatever happened after that was Bell's fault.

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So if I tell someone to stop, they get into the car, I can threaten to kill them with a gun, and kill them if they try to get away?

But seriously, you feel that getting into a car equates to a threat just because you've been told to stop prior to that? It's non-compliance, but I don't see how having been told to stop prior to it makes it a threat automatically.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Try to get away, No. Try to run over you with the car, Yes.

Unless the articles I've read seriously fucked up their chronology, the cops were threatening Bell with drawn guns BEFORE he moved his car.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

If you're a police officer who has given a lawful order to stop, yes you CAN threaten. Bear in mind that heading toward the vehicle is in and of itself a threatening act as it is logical to believe the suspect may be attempting to retrieve a weapon from the car, or perhaps use the car as one.
No, but it is an action which should put a cop on alert. As stated, the suspect could be retrieving a weapon.
So tell us Slon, what should have been done? Merely let him go?

Bell signed his own death warrant the moment he tried to run. The fault is his own.

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getting into a vehicle that may have a gun in it I would equate that to a threat.

My response was to this statement:

...as opposed to shooting someone in the leg once, which suggests you do NOT consider them as threatening.

And I stand by my statement that you don't know the first thing employing deadly force.

Is it theoretically possible to shoot someone in the leg? Of course. Is it theoretically possibe to aim for the leg when employing deadly force?

No, it's not. Anyone with any degree of training in this area knows that.

But you don't know that. Why don't you know that? Because you know nothing about deadly force.

Here's one that should fuck you all up: Deadly force is not empoyed with the intent of killing someone.

I'm just dyin' to hear your argument against that one...

It's too bad no gun was found. Anybody can claim they thought there was a gun after the shooting is over. It doesn't mean there was a reasonable suspicion - reasonable enough to justify firing 50 unanswered shots.

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I can guarantee you that the officers involved didn't threaten to "kill" Bell.

They may have said they would shoot but, if you use your logic (shoot 'em in the leg), that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be killed, right?

You're hung up on the word "kill" and, believe it or not, that has nothing to do with the definition of deadly force.

I would love for you to show me where it does...

So your problem with this is that the police weren't fired upon?

That's pretty fucked up...