I'm asking you a question, Steve. You are dodging it.

"If that guy had robbed a bank, would you be complaining about poor speeding law enforcement?" (refer to my earlier post for context).

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Unless you refute my point, it's not necessary to answer your question.

If this scumbag illegal wasn't in this country, would he have raped that little girl?

If the answer is "no", then the discussion is over.

If the answer is (somehow), yes, your question might be pertinent, provided you can offer some reasonable explanation as to how he would've raped her without being in this country...

Oh, I agree with you, Steve. If he had been kept out of the US, he would not have been able to rape anyone in the US. Similarly, if we banned and effectively enforced laws against childbirth, both in the US and abroad, this guy would not have even been alive to rape anyone.Please go on and answer my question, Steve. Why are you so averse to discussing things outside of a vacuum?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

But, can we be absolutely sure that the victim wouldn't have been victimized by a legal resident?

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

How nice that, since that possibility may have existed, you're so accepting of her being raped by an illegal scumbag.

Man, we learn more about you every day.

And your argument fails, and miserably, at that, to address my point...

Excellent.

Perhaps there's hope for you yet...

Because things "outside of a vacuum" are rarely pertinent, and are primarily a waste of time...

So sad.

The problem, of course, is that the only "point" that you really have is that you hate illegal immigrants. Not a whole lot to talk about there, is there?

It's horrible what happened to that girl. It is no more or less horrible because the individual who committed the act was here in violation of immigration law. It's not really important one way or the other.


And, for you to claim repeatedly that somehow I condone such a horrific crime? That just goes to show what kind of "man" you really are.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Hey, you're the one making an idiotic argument based on the possibility that she may have been raped by someone not here illegally.

Such arguments make it clear that you have nothing of any value to offer to this discussion. You should probably put some actual thought behind your posts before you hit that "Submit Reply" button. Either that, or maybe just be a bystander because, so far, one would be hard-pressed to conclude that you have a hard time with the fact that an illegal scumbag alien raped a ten year old girl...

Instead of pointing to unsubstantiated statistics (and I use that word loosely here), why not actually answer the question? Don't dodge, Steve.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

What "statistics" did I point to?

And I've already stated, and rather fucking clearly, why I didn't answer your retarded question: it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is the rape of a little girl by an illegal scumbag alien. The mere fact that you want an answer doesn't make the question relevant...

You said it's "rarely" pertinent. It's an analogy that is parallel to the situation we have here.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

And this particular time would be not one of those cases...

The only place it's a parallel is in your head...

So what do you see that is wrong with my analogy?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Because the rape of a ten year old girl by a scumbag illiegal alien and the robbing of a bank by someone not caught speeding are not even close to being analogous...

To make a judgment regarding an analogy, one must first understand what an analogy is. An analogy does not compare one event to another, it compares the link between two events to the link between two different events.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.