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To make a judgment regarding an analogy, one must first understand what an analogy is. An analogy does not compare one event to another, it compares the link between two events to the link between two different events.
I fully understand what an analogy is.

I understand that your "analogy" falls short.

I understand that you think your analogy is fine.

I understand that, since you believe your analogy is fine, you think everyone should think it's fine.

I understand that you've not taken issue with the fact that a scumbag illegal alien raped a little girl.

I understand, then, that you have no problem with it.

Seriously, ask your silly-assed question all you want: It's not analogous and, therefore, will receive nothing but well-deserved ridicule...
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I fully understand what an analogy is.

I understand that your "analogy" falls short.

I understand that you think your analogy is fine.

I understand that, since you believe your analogy is fine, you think everyone should think it's fine.

I understand that you've not taken issue with the fact that a scumbag illegal alien raped a little girl.

I understand, then, that you have no problem with it.
Now you're just jumping to conclusion. Even if I did not voice my complaint here, it does not mean "I have no problem with it."
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Seriously, ask your silly-assed question all you want: It's not analogous and, therefore, will receive nothing but well-deserved ridicule...
How is it not analogous?
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Now you're just jumping to conclusion. Even if I did not voice my complaint here, it does not mean "I have no problem with it."

How is it not analogous?
You possess this amazing inability to realize when you've ceased making a point.

Given the horrific nature of the crime, if you had a problem with it would've voiced your opinion of it by now.

You have not...
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You possess this amazing inability to realize when you've ceased making a point.
Don't dodge, Steve:
How is it not analogous?
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Given the horrific nature of the crime, if you had a problem with it would've voiced your opinion of it by now.
Assumptions and jumps to conclusion? All in a day's work for Steve.
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Don't dodge, Steve:
How is it not analogous?Assumptions and jumps to conclusion? All in a day's work for Steve.
I'm wondering if the Mods can find us a yawning "smilie".

Could sure use one now, as you're really being boring right now.

Ask a question pertinent to the case at hand, and I'll entertain the possibility of responding. Continue doing what you're doing, though; asking the same, tired, non-pertinent question, and I will not...
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I'm wondering if the Mods can find us a yawning "smilie".

Could sure use one now, as you're really being boring right now.

Ask a question pertinent to the case at hand, and I'll entertain the possibility of responding. Continue doing what you're doing, though; asking the same, tired, non-pertinent question, and I will not...
You've not pointed out how it is not pertinent.
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You've not pointed out how it is not pertinent.
What you need to come to grips with is the fact that I believe it's not pertinent. In fact, I believe it to be asinine.

I'll get through the day, just fine, with the understanding that you do not.

Again, your continued asking of a question makes it no more relevant, and no more deserving of a response...
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What you need to come to grips with is the fact that I believe it's not pertinent.
In case you haven't noticed, the point of a DISCUSSION forum is to discuss why you hold your beliefs. It isn't called "U.S. Politics Online Polling Service," and there is a reason.
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In fact, I believe it to be asinine.

I'll get through the day, just fine, with the understanding that you do not.
I've little doubt of that. You've gotten through nearly two years by being averse to any actual debate and discussion, if your behavior here and now, as well as before and in other posts, is any indication.
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Again, your continued asking of a question makes it no more relevant, and no more deserving of a response...
It was deserving of a response the first time I asked it. But you are right. Asking it multiple times doesn't make it more so.
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Seriously, I'd pay ten bucks for a "yawning" smiley right now...
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Seriously, I'd pay ten bucks for a "yawning" smiley right now...


No ten bucks needed; my pleasure.
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No ten bucks needed; my pleasure.
You rock.

I wonder if this one works:
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Re: Those Fun Lovin' Illegals...

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Hey, you're the one making an idiotic argument based on the possibility that she may have been raped by someone not here illegally.

Such arguments make it clear that you have nothing of any value to offer to this discussion. You should probably put some actual thought behind your posts before you hit that "Submit Reply" button. Either that, or maybe just be a bystander because, so far, one would be hard-pressed to conclude that you have a hard time with the fact that an illegal scumbag alien raped a ten year old girl...
Oh, please.

Sexual assaults occur with disturbing frequency in the US. What you have constistently failed to demonstrate is that the perpetrator's immigration status had anything to do with the crime that he committed.

And as far as "one" being hard-pressed to conclude that I have anything but disgust at the crime? Well, I suspect the only "one" is you.

Not that I give 2 shits about your opinion anyway.
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Oh, please.

Sexual assaults occur with disturbing frequency in the US. What you have constistently failed to demonstrate is that the perpetrator's immigration status had anything to do with the crime that he committed.

And as far as "one" being hard-pressed to conclude that I have anything but disgust at the crime? Well, I suspect the only "one" is you.

Not that I give 2 shits about your opinion anyway.
If this illegal scumbag alien wasn't in our country, do you honestly believe that little girl would've been raped?
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If this illegal scumbag alien wasn't in our country, do you honestly believe that little girl would've been raped?
I don't know. I suspect the odds (assuming everything occurs randomly) would have been about the same. One sick paedophile more or less is not going to change those rates by any measurable amount.

It's impossible to say what would/wouldn't happen if an individual weren't in the country (or on the planet for that matter). The minute differences that each of us make create vast changes in how things happen.


Would it be great to say that if that guy hadn't been here illegally that the crime wouldn't have happened? Of course. Is it realistic? Who's to say? I'm not sure that even the exercise of guessing about what-ifs is really worth the effort.
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I don't know. I suspect the odds (assuming everything occurs randomly) would have been about the same. One sick paedophile more or less is not going to change those rates by any measurable amount.

It's impossible to say what would/wouldn't happen if an individual weren't in the country (or on the planet for that matter). The minute differences that each of us make create vast changes in how things happen.


Would it be great to say that if that guy hadn't been here illegally that the crime wouldn't have happened? Of course. Is it realistic? Who's to say? I'm not sure that even the exercise of guessing about what-ifs is really worth the effort.
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