Well, I do not believe anyone needs to go out on a limb and acknowledge that rape is bad, you'd probably be hard pressed to find someone in this thread that believes its good, hence why they haven't stated it as plainly as I did.

As for where your concern is, we probably aren't going to agree on that.

You state -

You're right, but another little girl probably would have been raped and whether she is American or not, it is still hideous. So I'll amend my former statement. Rape is bad, no matter what country you live in, rape is bad. Bad, bad, bad.

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"We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell." - Oscar Wilde

If that's the case, I'm not sure it's valid for you to accuse others of condoning rape. This reads as though the main problem is the rapist in question being in the United States illegally, and that a little girl being raped is not as much of a concern, particularly if she isn't American. That is, it's worse when American girls get raped than it is when foreign girls get raped, and the fact that people are in the country illegally is worse than either of these things.

That doesn't really seem to be any kind of hardline stance against rape itself, which is apparently not the biggest issue with the events here.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

As usual, drgoodtrips does a better job at stating my argument than I do, lol.

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"We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell." - Oscar Wilde

Yeah, I run into that problem myself.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Nice dodging.



Unfazed? Hardly.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

Well, maybe I care about my fellow citizens a little more than you do about yours...

I've dodged nothing...

You've offered nothing which would provide a contrary conclusion...

OMG. You keep telling yourself that if it feels better.

You've offered nothing which would provide a contrary conclusion...[/quote]

Again with the prove a negative fallacy.

If you've got something to suggest that I have any indifference to this poor girl's life, present it. Otherwise, admit that you are wrong, as you are so often when ascribing views to others.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

LOL, OK Steve, maybe thats it. I'll leave you to do...well, whatever it is you're doing.

*waves bye*

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"We are each our own devil, and we make this world our hell." - Oscar Wilde

Why do you say things like that? It completely undermines any point you're trying to make. She can just come back and say "well, maybe I care about little girls being raped more than you do" and her claim would sound a lot more credible than yours. She seems to be saying that rape is bad regardless of the citizenship of the victim whereas you seem to be saying that little girls getting raped is only bad if they happen to be American. Your position is a lot easier to pick apart with indignation than hers, but either way, what's the point? It's emotive, unverifiable, and accomplishes nothing in the way of discussion.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

So if he were here legally, he would have been less likely to rape her?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Had we killed all of our little girls, he would not have committed this rape! Clearly, the solution is to ban children.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

Maybe, maybe not.

What we do know, however, is that he is here illegally and he raped her...

Yes, comments like this add so much to the discussion...

What we also do know is that he was born at some point and he raped her...
I'm surprised you post a scenario parallel to my analogy in a serious manner, and then turn around and deride the analogy.



I take it back. I'm not surprised.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.