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Old 05-07-2008
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Re: Those Fun Lovin' Illegals...

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Yes, it's without question that if that molester had not had access to that girl, the chances of her molestation decreased.
Well, then why shouldn't we look at what allowed him to be here?
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Well, if that's how you see it, far be it for me to stand in your way...
That's....not the way I see it. I was using your own position, attempting to show how ludicrous it is. Obviously I'm going to have to use a simpler approach. Let me try again...

Your attempt to show compassion for the raped 10 year old is completely laughable when you turn around and advocate murdering mass amounts of people you don't like.

Better?
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Steve, I still can't wrap my head around this.
Clearly...

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One the one hand you say the only reason you dislike illegals only because they are illegal, on the other hand you link to crime stories and use lines like "pouring over our border".
I see no conflict there. I hate them because they're here illegally. I hate them even more when they do shit like this particular scumbag did.

Oh, and they are pouring over our borders...

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Why don't you just say you don't like foreigners...
Because that's not what my position is, that's why...

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I don't want illegals out of my country because they are illegal, I want them out because they are foreigners. Why not drop the "illegal" facade and make it just about immigration? If the immigrant of this topic was here legally he would have the same chances of committing the crime.
Well, I want illegals out of my country because they're illegals. Scumbags like the ones in the piece I linked to, though, need to remain here long enough to be executed.

Don't act under the illusion that because you have a problem with foreigners, everyone does.

I don't.

I just happen to have a problem with those who come here, illegally, and commit heinous crimes. As evidenced by other posts, though, it would appear as though that's not as big a deal for some people.

As for "if he was here legally" is a moronic thing to say. He wasn't here legally.

If he's found guilty, I hope they elect some particularly nasty medieval form of execution. A needle in the arm is far too good for a piece of human shit like that...
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That's....not the way I see it. I was using your own position, attempting to show how ludicrous it is. Obviously I'm going to have to use a simpler approach. Let me try again...

Your attempt to show compassion for the raped 10 year old is completely laughable when you turn around and advocate murdering mass amounts of people you don't like.

Better?
No. In fact, it's even more idiotic.

I would much prefer that we don't kill anyone.

That notwithstanding, if only a dozen or so were cut down as they crossed the border, that word would spread like wildfire. As a result, it's likely we would see the flow of illegal scumbag aliens slow down.

If they'd just stay where the fuck they are, we wouldn't have to shoot anyone, and I'd be okay with that, too...
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Well, then why shouldn't we look at what allowed him to be here?
Certainly we can. But, perhaps you should examine your delivery. All you've managed at this point is to say, "I hate illegals." We're all well aware of that position.

If you want to discuss illegal immigration, then please do so. But at least have the honesty to discuss that issue instead of purporting to demonstrate some connection between criminality and immigration status.

And, yes, I know that crossing the border without permission is an illegal act. That act does not, from any research that I am aware of, form a contributing factor to unrelated criminal behavior.
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Re: Those Fun Lovin' Illegals...

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If you want to discuss illegal immigration, then please do so. But at least have the honesty to discuss that issue instead of purporting to demonstrate some connection between criminality and immigration status.

And, yes, I know that crossing the border without permission is an illegal act. That act does not, from any research that I am aware of, form a contributing factor to unrelated criminal behavior.
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If you want to discuss illegal immigration, then please do so.
I do.

You just seem to be thrown by the fact that I want to discuss the crimes they commit once they're here.

If you can't keep up, just say so. But it's stupid to suggest that illegal immigration, and crimes committed by illegal aliens, should not be discussed together.

I would only expect someone who has no particular problem with a ten year old being raped by an illegal scumbag alien to try to separate the issues...
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Better that someone is raped in a country with a half decent criminal justice system than in one without...
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I have noticed that a disproportionate amount of child molestors have mustaches.

What will we do about all the people with mustaches? They let all that hair pour out and hang above their mouths, those scumbags. If it were up to me we would shoot them whenever they showed their unshaved faces on the street.

No amnesty for men with mustaches! Back in the line with everyone else who has to buy shaving foam!
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Better that someone is raped in a country with a half decent criminal justice system than in one without...
Had the guy not been here, she wouldn't have been raped.

Ignore that all you want, but that fact won't go away anytime soon...
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I have noticed that a disproportionate amount of child molestors have mustaches.

What will we do about all the people with mustaches? They let all that hair pour out and hang above their mouths, those scumbags. If it were up to me we would shoot them whenever they showed their unshaved faces on the street.

No amnesty for men with mustaches! Back in the line with everyone else who has to buy shaving foam!
Your earlier, pitiful failure of an attempt to put words in my mouth earlier has confirmed that your opinion means nothing.

Will you elect to try to actually have a discussion, or will you elect to continue to troll?
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You know, there just isn't a hot enough part of Hell for guys like this:

Illegal Alien Hijinx
Is hell not hot enough because the man is an illegal alien or because of what he did?
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If you want to discuss illegal immigration, then please do so. But at least have the honesty to discuss that issue instead of purporting to demonstrate some connection between criminality and immigration status.
There is an obvious connection between the two since 100% of illegal aliens are lawbreakers hence the term "illegal" alien. They illegally entered your nation and everyone of them that works in America is working without a visa; so they are two time lawbreakers.
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Better that someone is raped in a country with a half decent criminal justice system than in one without...
So it is better that he raped one of your own fellow Americans instead of one of his own back in Mexico?
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So it is better that he raped one of your own fellow Americans instead of one of his own back in Mexico?
It's better that he serves time for his crime.
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