Well, that's just about as idiotic as it gets, right there.

Then again, I'd be wasting perfectly good breath if I tried to explain why to someone swingin' a can of PBR...

@Frank

This is another post in the line of argument that I was refuting (as opposed to general commentary about illegals at all). You wouldn't seriously defend this kind of nonsense would you.

@Steve

You're really, really reaching here. And you also haven't conceded that your jay-walking speeding means that the police ought to come talk to you anytime a child is molested in the area.

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That actually was my point; please explain this to Pramjockey maybe he will listen to you. I will concede in all intellectual fairness that I have no statistics that prove that greater general crime risk translates into a greater predisposition to commit one particular crime namely rape.

However, I do argue that those groups with higher representations in criminal rates are more likely to commit crimes in general (including sexual offences) than those who honour the law and I do believe this criminal disposition is statistically illustrated in many crimes even though sexual offence rates are not delved into too deeply.

As I've said, it would depend on the two crimes involved. Breaking and entering and assault? Yes, probably. Double parking and necrophilia? Probably not.

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So you're admitting to the possibility that you'll rape children??

You're so right it's funny. Leaps of logic are about as idiotic as it gets.

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Actually, my first look would be at the person who doesn't drink.

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How would B&E and assault be more likely?

I'm not even talking about someone's driving habits. I'm talking about someone; a child, who's admitted to abusing alcohol at a young age. He's already headed down the wrong path and, yes, I believe he's more likely to commit a serious crime as opposed to someone who double parks...

This thread is quickly losing its value.

Well, no shit. I would expect that you would, because you're the one who's illegally using alcohol. It should be no wonder that you wouldn't want someone looking at you as the culprit.

But that notwithstanding: I wouldn't look at it in the context of investigating someone who drinks. I would look at it in the context of someone who regularly breaks the law, and then boasts, as you have done, about the fact that he regularly breaks the law.

That's an enormous red flag...

I guess that depends on if your logic is sound.

Exactly 100 percent of people who have posted in this thread have proved that they've thought about children being raped. Of the people not posting in this thread, less than 100 percent of them have thought about children being raped.
Therefore, the people posting in this thread are more likely to rape children.

The answer to your question depends on whether or not the scenario I described is true.

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-Larry McMurtry in Roads

Learn English or move to a different country.

Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

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Did it ever have any?

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-Larry McMurtry in Roads

I find it odd that someone who conducts "research" on a school and manages to get everything from the name, method of teaching and accreditation wrong still finds the chutzpah to criticise others for their alleged lack of research skills.

And, that was the line I was arguing (in the specific case - someone drinking underage or speeding, citizen or not, is more likely to rape children). Regarding your point, I see no reason to ignore data suggesting that illegal aliens commit crime at a higher rate than citizens.

I think this is a lot more nuanced. As in, there are "crimes" and there are crimes. Of course, that's pretty vague I mean that I think it depends more on how society may view something. For instance, there are things that are technically crimes but not considered immoral, such as speeding, fishing without a license, etc. Then, there are things that are considered immoral and are a bit more serious, but not sufficient to make you a societal outcast such as DWI, drug use, cheating on taxes, (cheating on a spouse might fall here, but is legal), etc. Above that, there are things that are seriously illegal and definitely immoral such as theft, assault, etc. Then, at the far end of the spectrum, you have things that are likely to earn you a killing by your fellow citizens such as killing/molesting children, serial killing, cannibalism, etc.

Now, assuming we have four rough "buckets", I'd say that people in each "bucket" are more likely to do things within their "bucket" once they've started. If you screw around on your wife, you might well cheat on your taxes or drive home drunk. If you pick people's pockets, you'll probably break into a car. That sort of thing. However, I think people are adverse to venturing beyond their "buckets" which explains why bank robbers and gang-bangers take it upon themselves to murder child molestors in prison and we as a society say "well, the guy may have shot four people in that liquor store in cold blood, but he has some morals."

I would put illegal immigration as putting people in, perhaps, the second bucket. But, I would also say that people who immigrate illegally are probably of personality types that embrace risk taking and rule-breaking, which probably correlates to higher "buckets" in general.

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