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Jesus.

Your ignorance shines with the light of a thousand suns.

My comment about shooting the "missle" (that's for you) was tongue-in-cheek.

Second, I'd really love for you to show me a Mk 46 torpedo that costs ten mil.

Oh, wait. You don't know the first fucking thing about what you're talking about, and you're allowing your profound ignorance to guide your way.

Nevermind...

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Alright, everyone relax a little bit.

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Ooo..I see.

Of COURSE you knew better, You were TESTING us.

And your paragraph above, where you say that killing 15-20 pirates is worth the lives of the crew, the tanker and an environmental disaster that makes the Exxon Valdez look like a sloppy oil change, that's just even more to see if we'll pick up on the joke, I understand now.

Brilliant, and for a minute there I thought you were maybe some sailor first class or whatever they call them who spent 20 years swabbing decks and now occupies himself mostly with googling images of military hardware and counseling the Secy of the Navy on how to be tough.

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No, no test. Just a tongue in cheek comment that, apparently, only intelligent people grasped...

Where did I say it would be "worth it" to kill the hostages?

Are you ever going to stop making shit up?

Maybe you should read your quote in my signature...

"Sailor first class"?

What the fuck is that?

Do you know anything about anything that you comment on?

Seriously, you are the most profoundly ignorant individual I've encountered on this forum. While it's glaringly clear that you tend to not know what the fuck you're talking about, you continue on as though you're far more qualified to speak on a subject that anyone else. Case in point: You don't even know what a fucking torpedo looks like, yet you seem to have deemed yourself qualified to opine about their capabilities.

And everyone laughs at you, as we would a clown.

Even a bad one.

It's okay to admit that you don't know something about a topic, John, it really is. People will think far more of you if you'd just be quiet when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about than they will if you run your mouth and prove the point...

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I think for the single most recent event, they should pay the ransom.

Seeing the scope of the area involved in pirate attacks, it would be impractical if not impossible to cease crossing the affected shipping lanes.

For the larger question: I don't believe any historical outbreak of naval piracy has been brought to an end by anything other than systematic capture and prosecution of the criminals and an accompanying military campaign to counter it.

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If the pirates could get aboard the tanker, then so can Navy SEALs and if they can get aboard at all they can probably do so undetected.

Once that happens I really don't think the pirates would stand a chance.

As to ending this in the future I think we will start seeing these ships arm themselves and carrying security people.

This might be a good market for the Active Denial System

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Ah, yes, more ramblings from the subject matter expert.

Could SEALS get on board? Probably. But not as easily as the pirates.

The pirates boarded a ship which was not defended. There weren't, apparently, any firearms in the hands of watchful sentries. Pirates will most certainly be on the watch for an incursion by Special Forces, and would do what they could to repel that.

Unlike when the pirates took over, which probably resulted in the crew just putting their hands in the air...

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any reasonable person would have to assume that you were referring to a missile because missiles also travel in the air (like the pic you posted) and because a torpedo is hopeless against a speadboat, which, with a powerful engine can easily outrun a torpedo.

Doesn't matter if it's classified. A torpedo simply cannot top the speed a of a speedboat because it's engine power is limited, whereas a motorboat's engine is bigger and more powerful. Furthermore, hydroplane boats can travel in excess of 70 mph easily, and in races, they have and even in excess of that speed.

Cite an example of a torpedo succesfully taking out a speedboat. It's theoretically impossible for any moving weapon to take out a target traveling faster than it unless it can predict its trajectory, which a torpedo can't do since the speedboat can always turn and change its direction.

Yes, slow moving targets, like big ships, which is probably why these pirates are using speedboats to avoid the threat. Duh.

And how many speeboats did you take out w/torpedos?

(this is where the s come in)

As is brutally to practically every poster here, you are the only making a fool out of yourself w/your stupid posts about firing torpedos at oil tankers (as though any Navy would be dumb enough to do that) or that a torpedo could strike a fast motorboat even though there's no example of that happening

and that it's theoretically impossible, by simply Newtonian physics, for that to happen. If you'd acctually bothered to go to school at any time in your life, you might have learned about things like velocity, acceleration, etc. to know that.

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ah makes it worth coming back after 4 days and seeing a gem like this

thanks steve

Admiral's uniform? Steve never even made it past the enlisted ranks.

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Is that so? You actually know what the top speed of a torpedo is?

There is no torpedo that can travel faster than the top speed of one of these speedboats.

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I don't know. 45 knots is pretty fucking fast, and at a range of 36,000 feet, I suspect that these boats from third-world nations wouldn't be much of a challenge to sink.

MK-46 Torpedo

I'd suspect that the harder part is trying to cover all of the ocean that's at risk for piracy.

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