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Old 11-20-2008
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Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

8-year-old accused of killing father, another man - CNN.com

This article does not say it, but he was sentenced to 2 days in jail. I think this is a fair sentencing.
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

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8-year-old accused of killing father, another man - CNN.com

This article does not say it, but he was sentenced to 2 days in jail. I think this is a fair sentencing.
Tough with such a young kid...
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Old 11-23-2008
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

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8-year-old accused of killing father, another man - CNN.com

This article does not say it, but he was sentenced to 2 days in jail. I think this is a fair sentencing.

He was not sentenced or even tried. The "confession" was a consitutional nightmare. I don't know any judges worth their salt that would uphold that confession in court. Even pro-law enforcement officials from PBA and FOP have criticized the procedures undertaken by the interrogating detectives. They screwed the pooch on that one.

On another note, it is unfathomable to me that we have become a society that is almost immune to the fact that an 8 year old allegedly took the life of his father. I discuss this with my students and they seemed surprised, but not shocked, concerned but not fazed.
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Old 11-23-2008
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

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8-year-old accused of killing father, another man - CNN.com

This article does not say it, but he was sentenced to 2 days in jail. I think this is a fair sentencing.
so 2 days in jail for ofing 2 people..thats cool now?
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Old 11-23-2008
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so 2 days in jail for ofing 2 people..thats cool now?
You wanna' throw an eight year old in the Big House?
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He was not sentenced or even tried. The "confession" was a consitutional nightmare. I don't know any judges worth their salt that would uphold that confession in court. Even pro-law enforcement officials from PBA and FOP have criticized the procedures undertaken by the interrogating detectives. They screwed the pooch on that one.

On another note, it is unfathomable to me that we have become a society that is almost immune to the fact that an 8 year old allegedly took the life of his father. I discuss this with my students and they seemed surprised, but not shocked, concerned but not fazed.
Well said. Though the confession will be thrown out, he needs, well, counseling putting it loosely and for a long time.


Anyway, I am sure they will be able to test for paraffin etc....if he did it they'll prove it even without the confession...what to do with him is another question.
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

It's difficult to imagine what could motivate an eight year old to kill his father and another person. I'm inclined to believe he probably had a pretty good reason, I don't really want to think about what that reason might be.
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

If it hadn't been for the gun....
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If it hadn't been for the gun....
please not another one of those arguments, we are still recovering from the last one...
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

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Well said. Though the confession will be thrown out, he needs, well, counseling putting it loosely and for a long time.


Anyway, I am sure they will be able to test for paraffin etc....if he did it they'll prove it even without the confession...what to do with him is another question.
In Arizona, I believe juvenile detention will only hold until 23. There are so many issues in this one case. It is a case study worthy of an entire semester of study. Does an 8 year old have the requisite formed psyche to understand his actions and intend to kill anyone? Should the police be required to produce an attorney for this child when the only known parent is dead? And the kicker of all....where the hell was his MOTHER??
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If it hadn't been for the gun....
When in doubt, blame inanimate objects!
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In Arizona, I believe juvenile detention will only hold until 23. There are so many issues in this one case. It is a case study worthy of an entire semester of study. Does an 8 year old have the requisite formed psyche to understand his actions and intend to kill anyone? Should the police be required to produce an attorney for this child when the only known parent is dead? And the kicker of all....where the hell was his MOTHER??
I agree, this is a very difficult case. However, I think something can be learned from this and someone needs to take advantage of that.
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Old 11-23-2008
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

I have to wonder if the father and the friend were abusing the boy in which case I could understand a child taking such drastic measures. However, if there's no evidence of abuse, I can't imagine why he would go so far.
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

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Well said. Though the confession will be thrown out, he needs, well, counseling putting it loosely and for a long time.


Anyway, I am sure they will be able to test for paraffin etc....if he did it they'll prove it even without the confession...what to do with him is another question.
I am kind of wondering if he might not be mildly autistic.
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Old 11-25-2008
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Re: Eight Year Old Boy Murders Father

Apparently, he shot the men because they looked as if they were, "suffering". So he, "shot them, I thinks, yeah".
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