But torture is illegal, and cruel and unusual punishment is not allowed...is it the 8th ammendment which says this?

I am not American so my knowledge of these things is not too good.

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this is why we should just shoot them in the face. or the back of the head, prisoners choice.

cruel and unusual punishment IS illegal. However, there is nothing cruel or unusual about the lethal injection, there have been multiple court cases agreeing to this fact. The fact that they couldn't find a vein is more of an "act of God" IE uncontrollable circumstance type thing. Its not like they did it on purpose. Now if he had a bunch of good veins and they kept poking him and dragging it out for the sheer entertainment value, then he might have a case. But if he simply didn't have a vein because he was a former drug abuser or had some other sort of problem that weakens veins etc like seems to be the case, then well... its his bad not the states.

This is why i think we should just shoot them in the head. just put them in the room after the clock elapses for the midnight call to stop then pop him once he hits the room. Bang, plop. Done. None of this procedural bs.

Throw his ass into traffic and be done with him...

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For those who have fought to defend it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know...



If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

In a State where the human rights are respected there is no death penalty.

What about the rights of the victims?

A convicted criminal HAS NO RIGHTS. Human or otherwise.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Silence is golden...Duct tape is silver.

The victims should be helped, as far as possible. If they are murdered, you can't help them any more, not even by killing the murderer.


But that is horrible. You must not say so. That means a convicted criminal might be tortured and killed, as people just like it.

It is very important that a state respekts the same rules which are to be respected by the citizens, and that is: Don't kill. - It is one of the Ten Commandements, too.

Governmental vengeance is not good for the people. I think people get more hateful and vindictive by it, and that means: More crime and more aggression.

Law should first and foremost prevent crimes.

The victim and the victim's estate (as well as society in general) has the right to expect justice to be carried out. Just because the victim is dead does not mean you simply disregard the sentence of his murderer.
No it isn't, especially not in comparison to the act which got someone condemned to death.
Why the fuck not? Because it offends your sensibilities? Too bad.

I'm sorry you're only now discovering that life is dangerous and that bad people do bad things, but that really is just too damn bad.
Newsflash sunshine, criminals ARE "tortured" by the standards of free men. Thats part of what happens when you are convicted of a crime. Dont like it? Then stop trying to live outside the rules of society.

As we are discussing criminals who have been convicted of a capital crime who are facing execution, they are most assuredly going to be killed.
You've got that utterly wrong.

First off, killing is not necessarily illegal. It is also not necessarily wrong. Additionally, it most assuredly does not violate any of the 10 Commandments - and even if it did it wouldn't matter. We are not a theocracy.

Killing without justification IS illegal. In the case of execution, one is being executed (killed if you prefer) because of a crime he chose to commit.

As an aside, the 10 Commandments forbid MURDER, not killing. If you took the time to read more than the Cliff Notes version of the Old Testament, you would have noticed there were many crimes for which God himself decreed a man should be put to death.

By carrying out the sentence of death the state is doing exactly what the people has TOLD it to do and ensured justice for the people.
Sure it is. It has worked that way since the dawn of time.
I think you're incorrect, but in both cases we're expressing opinion. However, my opinion is pretty much in line with the viewpoint of the bulk of humanity - based at least on the fact that governments the world over are tasked with carrying out sentences on criminals.
No law can possibly prevent a crime. Never has, and never will. Laws can only specify penalties for those crimes. When someone violates those laws, in order for society to remain a society, the penalty must be applied.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Silence is golden...Duct tape is silver.

Since when is lethal injection a good method to execute people? Is there anything good about it except the appearance of a calm death?

being that he was a convicted rapist murderer, i would agree to a bleed out....nice and slow, let him think about what he did.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

IT IS TIME for Americans to take back the country and start a new government.

I think all executions should be public. If we're not willing to watch what the state does in our name then we ought not let the state do it.

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