Consensual or not, (which I doubt it was given she was drugged), she was a minor and our laws don't allow a minor to "consent" to sex with an adult.

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Was there physical evidence of her being drugged? Did she go to a hospital straight afterwards? Was there physical evidence that she'd had sex by force?

What evidence was Roman convicted on? He may have pleaded guilty but it doesn't mean she didn't want it. Obviously, it doesn't matter, but consensual sex with a minor is, to me, a lot better than taking a child by force.

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I don't know the particulars but a 30 year old man having sex with a 13 year old is RAPE no matter which way you look at it. THE LAW SAYS SO.

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in this country its moot.

He pleaded guilty and ran. he should never see the light of day again.

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

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So jumping bail, as it were, should be an LWOP?

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banging a pre-teen would seem to be the more vicious crime but I know you guys see these things differently

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

I did, and what he did is an act committed by paedophiles. Either way, he's an admitted child rapist.

Pedophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (links therein)

Sure, as well as the nature of his offence and his flight and longtime contemptuous fugitive status, which far outweighs that.

What he did was conclusively wrong as a criminal act, never mind one of common sense.

And yes, she was innocent and he pled guilty to having sex with her. She would be innocent as a matter of law even if she consented, which she did not, because she could not as a matter of law give a valid consent considering she was way too young and immature to give a valid consent, and the perv was required by law to keep his sick eyes and hands off her given her age.

And whether she had sex with others is still totally irrelevant to what he did, and precisely why the US and other jurisdictions have been enacting 'rape shield laws' to prevent those kinds of character attacks on rape victims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_shield_law

'You can't believe he raped her or believe her claims because she's a slut' was one of the worst insults added to injuries that freed many rapists on red herring smears.

I hope his arse is hauled back and he's given a stiff sentence for the crime to which he pled guilty and, if possible, have the entire plea opened and charges reinstated for his breach of his plea agreement so they can tattoo him full throttle. I'd also like to see his face and information on the CA sex offenders registry, and see that he gets charged and severely sentenced for everything possible relating to his unlawful flight and fugitive status, and that he be made to compensate the federal and state governments for every dime spent in court costs, incarceration costs, and all costs put into attempts to get him back for sentencing from the day he fled.

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A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children. While I'm sure Polanski would be comforted by your support, he's still a fucking pedophile...

You're joking, right?

If someone walks into a convenience store and blows the clerks head off with a shotgun, because he's never done it before, we should "take that into consideration"? If some scumbag were to kidnap, rape, and kill your mother, should we consider the fact that he'd never done anything like that before?

Sorry, but there are some crimes for which once is sufficient...

Who's made that argument?

Regardless, he was in his 40's. Whether or not she was innocent or not doesn't matter. Whether or not she wanted to have sex doesn't matter. Whether she consented or not doesn't matter...

The scumbag fucked a little girl, and you want to let him be?

I'll be sure to add you to the list of people here who probably shouldn't be here...

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Worse, Polanski was 44 years old when he nude photoed, drugged and raped and sodomised the 13 year old.

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And it's fucking sickening to know that there's at least one person here who believes we should dismiss such horrific deeds...

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. . . or an instance of a person who is ordinarily prudent but in this case being blinded by 'star power' into being an apologist for a vile crime and fugitive criminal who happens to be a talented and accomplished movie director, which is also wrong.

----byword to Kyle:

Kyle: Unless you confirm otherwise in a reply, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here in that under ordinary circumstances:

1) you'd make no excuses for a 44 year old man who engaged in sex with a 13 year old and consider them perverted criminal scumbags who deserve a long prison sentence.

2) you wouldn't doubt the credibility of the victim who continues to assert she was raped in favour of the then-44 year old man who admitted having sex with the then-13 year old and then fled to avoid sentencing for it and remains on the run.

3) you would desire and support extradition of fugitive sex offenders, especially sex offences upon children.

Personally, I think Polanski is an outstanding director and I love many of his films. But he's also a child rapist and fugitive and deserves accountability for his crimes and conduct. Admiring his talents is no excuse for looking to excuse this man's vile crime and run from the law.

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I meant to type '40' because I wasn't sure of his exact age but how anyone could defend an adult raping a child is beyond me! I'm guessing that those that do, have no children.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

I think it's just the convenient blinders of 'star power' and/or the selfish desires of wanting or profiting upon his entertainment talents.

For me, things like this are absolutely scandalous:

Gulf Daily News » World News » Polanski arrest sparks outrage

I'm sure a large percentage of all the Polanski fans and defenders have children of their own who they don't want raped by 44 year old men.

Obviously France and Poland can go pound sand on this account IMO given they have shielded this admitted child rapist long enough. He wasn't in France or Poland when he was caught, so it's time for them to get a taste of their own medicine in being ignored on their unjustifiable pleas and actually serve justice on this admitted fugitive child rapist that they have long wrongfully harboured.

But if we were talking about famous US citizens raping children in their country, I'm sure the tune would be much different. Or if we were talking about ordinary Joe Schmoe child rapists heading to Thailand, former Soviet states, etc, to rape children, such predators would be deemed criminal scumbags worthy of detest, prosecution, extradition, etc.

But given this guy happens to be a very talented film director, I guess for so many people that it's ok to give out a free actual child rape to anyone who can produce the Pianist showing cinematic horrors committed by adults on children. And it's sad that one's personal entertainment indulgences outweighs holding someone accountable for raping a child.

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Polanski is a depraved, disgusting sleeze, anyone who defends or dismisses this fact is just as disgusting and pathetic

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It's disgusting and pathetic. But for those otherwise decent and being blinded by 'star power' and/or ignorance of the factual scenario, it's important to call them to their better senses and inform them. For those who still would apologise for, root for, desire sheltering, etc, then they choose to be indecent, and it's all the more important that they do not win and that this man be brought back and punished for his crimes.

I'm talking about ordinary people here. The French government for example...they know what he did and has done. Their past, present and ongoing conduct concerning him is disgusting and pathetic.

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