Why else would you want them to rescind the offer because of people like me? Just because?
And if Metallica took the approach that Dr.Dre did and asked Napster to remove any trace of his music from the site, I would have less of a problem with it. That wasn't their first choice, though, their decision was to completely ban people from the service.
There is no dollar amount. I've already said I'm glad they gave this money. If they continue to do acts like this, my impression of them will get more favorable. But one act of generosity is not going to make up for, in my opinion, many acts of selfishness. Throw a free concert, do more charity work, show more appreciation for fans, etc. This is a good start, but it's still not enough for me to suddenly say Metallica are pretty neat guys.
Wasn't me...
True, and I've never said they had any obligation.
The info I can find on their net worth ranges, so I can't give an absolute. I rely on 'probably' in order to not mislead people into thinking it's a 100% fact that they're worth near a billion, but there's a good chance they are.
Well, it was pretty obvious she was gone the next day when she was nowhere to be found and her car was in the parking lot. A ten day delay fits in with my preconceived image of Metallica: not offering any money until they realized the story was picking up steam in the news.

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Because Lars needs members in Congress to protect his wealth, I don't.


Whining like a bitch when you already have all the money in the world to ruin one of the greatest technologies the world has ever seen (and would be much greater than what it is now) is a shit move IMO.

He's more of a product of a system that rewards simplistic greed over true free market competition. It works like this in almost all walks of life and I'm not surprised by his actions, just fundamentally disagree with greedy bitches most of the time.

He doesn't do any work when a file is transferred. He gets paid very well when he is performing (and doing actual work).

Cmon Speakeasy, that last post was unreadable. Stop splitting up so many freaking quotes, my eyes are bleeding.

I'm not sure that you've got the moral high ground, here. It sounds as if you would prefer that Metallica retracted their offer so that you would have more to complain about vis a vis Speaskeasy and others in the thread.

At least their course of action wouldn't have gotten anyone's hopes up.

(As a general side note, this is a very weird thread)

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Hey, I thought I'd just pop into the thread to say

"Weasel! Relish! CHLORINE(643*(x-1))/Fx BARNEY!"

As a point of order, Napster was not "one of the greatest" anything. It was a non-scalable piece of shit that choked off all legitimate network traffic while it was en vogue. Had it not been shut down, it would have collapsed on itself under the weight of its shitty design very quickly.

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And on cue, Nothing Else Matters starts playing on the radio at work.

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I've never said that, though.
When did I ever say their work should be freely available to anyone who wanted it? Dr.Dre ended up doing the exact same thing Metallica did, but there's a reason I don't hate him nearly as much. That reason is that Dr.Dre tried other methods to resolve the situation before asking for millions of dollars and banning people left and right.

As for giving music away for free, that's an incredibly smart thing to do for artists who want to get their music out. Nobody is going to purchase an album from someone no one has ever heard of. But if you give your music out for free, build up a fan base and get people interested in what you're doing (you know, how free radio has done for decades now), then you have enough interest to start charging people. It's how a vast majority of bands start out, Metallica included.
Right, and had Metallica been less douchy, they could have asked the colleges to block access rather than slapping them with a ten million dollar lawsuit right away.
Metallica sure does have the right to be as cool or as douche as they want to be. It was their right to take the douche path and I'm not saying they shouldn't have that right. But if they're going to take the douche path, they should expect to be thought of as douches by a lot of people. And they are.

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It was fantastic for it's time, revolutionized the internet, and had plenty of room to improve before it was hamstringed.

Now we have shitty Itunes and it will only get gradually better every 5 years or so so they can continue to sell us shitty services and pretend like it's the "future".

edit: You have to remember, it was two college kids that started it.

You should've seen what I was working with...

Metalica kicks in 50k for reward

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Yeeesssss...

Actually, I'm thinking about finding some of these on youtube, I only know one or two lines, and they are playing on an endless loop in my head (deja vu Meatloaf!!) and it's driving me crazy!!! I bought a mullet wig for the fiance for Halloween, might have to break that puppy out...

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I'd say that Napster bringing the concept of file sharing to the masses was its only real, lasting achievement.

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And now Enter Sandman! I think its Metallica:30 or something.

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It wouldn't have had room to improve. The problem with non-scalable software is that you can't improve/fix it. You simply have to rewrite it. None of that legislation would have been necessary anyway, as something else would have come along and been the Facebook to its MySpace (especially once the first wave of massive malware was propagated through it).

By the way, comparing it to Itunes doesn't make sense. It's really comparable to bit torrent clients. Itunes is a centrally run client/server architecture. And, neither is an example of anything Earth shattering. Peer to peer had been around since before Al Gore invented the internet. Music files had been around almost that long. Combining the two was certainly clever, but hardly revolutionary. Right place, right time, ala youtube (videos, the internet... videos and the internet!)

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