Religious leaders around the Muslim World condemned the numerous terrorist attacks around the world. Leaders of Muslim organisations inside the US and outside it did condemn these atrocities. I dont kno what more you need to see? 1.5 billion people lining up and condemning these attacks?

I agree there are many who sympathize with Al Qaeda and such groups,... this is not to say that Islam is responsible or that what Al Qaeda is doing is right. It is very clear that Muslims around the world condemned Al Qaeda's attacks and DO NOT FORGET... that the majority of victims to these attacks are MUSLIMS.

How many attacks did the US experience and how many did the Middle East experience at the hand of terrorism???

Politics is politics, .. . I dont expect the world churches to line up condemning America's bombing of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda is not a representative of Islam.... so lets not blame all Muslims and Islam for the sht that is happening by the hands of terrorism.

Dont expect alot of sympathy though when Muslims are facing to forms of enemies. The US on one side... and Al Qaeda on the other. Both are bombing them,.. both are murdering their women and children. I tell you, alot of Muslims equate the US to Al Qaeda. . .am afraid this is how it appears... and until American does something good for the Muslim World.....they will never sympathize with it.

It has continually supported the Israelis in murdering Palestinians and expanding illegal settlements.... it has continually funded them, and played their cards for them on the international front.

America's image has been ruined along time ago in the Middle East and across the world.... so why should anyone, Muslim or not,.. sympathize with an enemy that is not very different from Al Qaeda and no one here can claim that they hold the moral flag. You occupied lands, you killed 100,000s of civilians. . .and expect condemnations???

The issue is psychological...and political .. but if you want to play the religious card. . .I can also say that Bush is one twisted christian extremist who believed God told him to invade Iraq and save its people. This man was voted in power twice. Do I go extracting irrational conclusions out of this? NO!!...

Jeez!! ...

WS.

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Hasan The Coward's imam condemning him would be a good start.

But he's on record saying that he will not condemn a fellow muslim. He didn't qualify it, and that statement stands on its' own. The fact that Hasan killed 13 people is not enough for the imam to condemn him, for no other reason than he's a "fellow muslim"...

Your propensity to dismiss any possibility that islam played a role in this is all I need to know that religion is most likely the sole reason for it...

You just did...

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Steve,

1.5 Billion people do not decide to follow a religion because it is "evil" as you are saying. There are many corrupted Muslims I agree but you condemn anything that has an ounce of Islam on it. You are islamophobic and full of hatred. Your arguments have no weight. Continue blaming Islam if thats making you horny... but doesnt mean its true. I am getting bored of your copy paste arguments. .. anything new?

WS.

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Really?

Where did I say islam is "evil". You quote it as though I've said it, so provide a link to where I posted it.

Or are you just being dishonest?

No, I condemn anything in which violence is exacted on others by muslims...

An islamaphobe? No. Full of hatred for muslims who commit such acts, and for those who refuse to condemn those who commit those acts?

Damn skippy...

This from the person who insists Hasan wasn't a devout muslim, despite being provided evidence which strongly suggests just the opposite...

I'll continue to blame islam because islam continues to warrant the blame...

I've not done cut and paste for my arguments. I've used cut and paste to provide you with information which you want to ignore...

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Yeah, case closed.

Contradict yerself much?

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There is a video of the shooter in a carry-out wearing traditional Muslim clothing. And apparently this is something he had recently started doing.

This guy was not an immigrant, he was born and raised in Virginia. Now one must admit that dressing up in this type of garb is a very strange and very unusual thing for a born and raised American to do.

What this reminds me of is that guy who wrote the book "My Year Inside Radical Islam." in which he describes how in a relatively short period of time he ended up dressing in these foreign garbs, viewing non-muslims with disdain, becomming a radical, and eventually working for al-Qaeda.

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How was this victim of this cowardly islamic rage the same as the human scum sucking bottom feeders that are Al Qaeda?:

Michael Grant Cahill

Cahill, a 62-year-old physician assistant, suffered a heart attack two weeks ago and returned to work at the base as a civilian employee after taking just one week off for recovery, said his daughter Keely Vanacker.

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When I see public displays condemning these attacks on the scale of those that where happy for 9/11 then I'll feel much better about it.

YouTube - Muslims Celebrating 9/11

YouTube - American Muslims Hate America

Be as focal about condemning these people as they are about celebrating hate.

I'd also like to add that we haven't killed 100,000's of thousands. That number is the result of Arabs killing each other. They need to take responsibility for their own actions. We also don't bomb civilians, we bomb insurgents and al-queda. They just happen to be so cowardly as to hide in the civilian populations. If they would be kind enough to sit on military bases, like we do, we will kindly bomb just them.

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Was the attack religiously motivated? Probably. I've heard an unsubstantiated report that he was being deployed and wasn't loyal enough to the service to potentially kill a fellow muslim. Unsubstantiated, yes, but in the context it fits.

I'm honestly of the opinion it's a good thing the media isn't braying about how it was religiously based, though. If they were, it's quite likely they'd get someone unrelated to the incident killed. Whatever their motivation, I think they're doing the right thing.

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And yours the epitome of a mean queen.

Not Christ, mind you, the real founder of Christianity, St Paul. You want some examples of a guy who literally HATED women try reading some of the Epistles.

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Yeah alright why dont we blame ALL muslims for the actions of a few. You wont see public displays because right now Muslims including the vast majority of this world doesnt really trust America and its policies abroad and its very clear why. No need to go into that.

Again, Al Qaeda has hurt so many Muslims... did you go out in the streets in the US to condemn their attacks when they were killing 100s of Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere in the M/E??/ I doubt it.

You;re last paragraph is a load of bonkers.....you havnt killed 100,000s of civilians? awwww how sweet... you;ve been dropping flowers and red roses on them.... not bombs.

WS.

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OK, I got one question for all the bigots and haters in the last 26 or so pages of the most disgracefully vile vomitus of pure hatred and unabashed bigotry ever to besmirch the memories of 13 innocent people I've seen anywhere. Most of you people, with some glaring and nice exceptions that I hereby apologize to, would do StormFront proud.

My question, though, is WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO? Steve, should we just politely ask all the brave muslims who have put their lives on the line for all of us over the past several years to resign from the military because, "no military will ever trust them again." Well, what about us civilians? I know whenever I see a scarf in a shopping center again my concealed weapon is certainly going to be ready.

And if they can't function in society, well hey, those camps out West, aren't some of them still around? And since the Vegans arent eating them any more don't we have lots of empty cattle cars just sitting idle?

But look, we're in he middle of a depression. How can we be expected to feed several millions held in enforced nonproductiviity. Hell, we don't even like to take care of our OWN people when they're sick.

And this is WAR, after all. Who cares if they're good citizens who've paid their taxes, obeyed the law and even shed their blood for us. Who cares if they're just little kids for that matter It's "probably a cause of the religion" right Steve? It's in the religion, it's in the BLOOD.

Dauchau, Auschwitz, Belsen-belsen, Arcadia, Fresno, Parker Dam. Is this the proud list you're proposing we hand down to our children?

And anyone who wants to answer my above question PLEASE JUST ANSWER IT. I KNOW the scenario I'm putting up here is hyperbole, but it's also the ONLY logical extenion of most what I hear you saying. Given what I see being seriously proposed here what is your "Final Solution"? What DO you want to do with all the muslims?

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Way to be completely ignorant and dishonest. Get your fighters out of the civilian population and sit on military bases and much much less of the civilians will be killed. And no, we haven't killed 100,000s of civilians, like I said, YOUR people are doing that. Do a quick search on where the sources of the largest amounts of civilian casualties come from. Every single one will be from brother Arabs and Muslims killing each other. I believe there was just an attack about a week or two ago where two VBIEDs went off and killed about 150 civilians. That ain't us.

Reality check, back to you.

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care to name names? aside from steve? or is this just the usual smoke?

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