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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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Baseless assumptions on your part.

Until we know who the shooters were and why they did what they did, it is entirely premature and more than a bit disrespectful to be making things up about motive and what we need to do in response.

I hope that we can wait until we know something, rather than jumping to unsupported conclusions or attempting to co-opt this tragic incident to fit some other agenda.....

Matt
I don't accept your criticism.

And I don't accept the idea that I should just be "sad" and that I ought to just shut up.

It's not stopping folks around here from wanting to jump to the conclusion that it had everything to do with Islam, case closed.

It could be any number of things. And as I said before, if it's revealed that it does have something to do with PTSD, than we need to understand that shit instead of censoring it or continuing to repress it the way our society is prone to do.
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

Three shooters, but I've yet to hear if this was all at one site.

Still, more than 40 people hit... May God bless them and their families.
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Re: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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I’m glad he’s dead. Pity he didn’t die sooner.

Hopefully anyone else involved will meet an untimely demise, as well.

And, I hate to see it, but it just may be time to insist that service members who are Muslims be asked to resign.

There’s not a muslim in uniform who will be trusted after this…
Why? What about all the other muslims in uniform who don't engage in such acts? This Major is in a minority of two, as far as I can see.
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I’m glad he’s dead. Pity he didn’t die sooner.

Hopefully anyone else involved will meet an untimely demise, as well.

And, I hate to see it, but it just may be time to insist that service members who are Muslims be asked to resign.

There’s not a muslim in uniform who will be trusted after this…

Total bullshit!
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

As I suspected, the fringe lunatics at Free Republic are already calling for the deportation of all Muslims.
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As the cable news channels and people like us on forums like these try to figure out the "motives" of a tragedy like this...
I believe the motive is clear...
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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I don't accept your criticism.
I hope you don't expect me to care.

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And I don't accept the idea that I should just be "sad" and that I ought to just shut up.
Nobody said you should "shut up". Please try reading.

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It's not stopping folks around here from wanting to jump to the conclusion that it had everything to do with Islam, case closed.
And that speculation, just like yours, is baseless at this time. Funny that you seem to have an issue with that speculation, but think yours is special.

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It could be any number of things. And as I said before, if it's revealed that it does have something to do with PTSD, than we need to understand that shit instead of censoring it.
Right - it could be any number of things. I don't know, and neither do you.

Nobody is "censoring" anything. If you want to skip the intelligent route of knowing what happened before coming to conclusions, that's your affair.

People with some class and compassion for the families of the deceased and wounded, on the other hand, will simply offer condolence and wait until they actually know something before making declarations.

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Why? What about all the other muslims in uniform who don't engage in such acts? This Major is in a minority of two, as far as I can see.
I'm not saying they should be or shouldn't be trusted. I'm saying they won't be trusted...
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Total bullshit!
Was that what you had for lunch, or do you have a point to make?
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I'm not saying they should be or shouldn't be trusted. I'm saying they won't be trusted...
Ah, I see.
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I don't accept your criticism.
Well, that should get Matt all shaken up...

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And I don't accept the idea that I should just be "sad" and that I ought to just shut up.
Nobody told you to shut up.

But, still, if you feel it's a way to go...

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It's not stopping folks around here from wanting to jump to the conclusion that it had everything to do with Islam, case closed.
You don't seem to even want to consider it, going off on some tirade about PTSD, something of which I'm betting you actually know very little about...

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It could be any number of things. And as I said before, if it's revealed that it does have something to do with PTSD, than we need to understand that shit instead of censoring it or continuing to repress it the way our society is prone to do.
And if it doesn't have to do with PTSD (and I don't believe it does), we need to deal with what the problem actually is; that being some muslim who decided to start shooting his fellow troops...
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

Oh, for the love of God, people!

Right know, we do not know why this attack took place.

Here's what we do know - there are up to 40,000 families worried about their loved ones right now. My neighbor's kid is at Ft. Hood, and they can't get any information yet. They don't even know if he was in the same area of the base or, God forbid, a victim.

Once - just once - could we at least wait until the victims are identified and the bodies are cool before starting a bunch of political / religious finger pointing?

Show some human compassion, for fuck's sake......
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Re: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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I’m glad he’s dead. Pity he didn’t die sooner.

Hopefully anyone else involved will meet an untimely demise, as well.

And, I hate to see it, but it just may be time to insist that service members who are Muslims be asked to resign.

There’s not a muslim in uniform who will be trusted after this…
They should never have been trusted before this, but PCness demands we all ignore its body counts, and make up stupid shit to handwave it away, like making idiotic posts about Timothy McVeigh.
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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I hope you don't expect me to care.



Nobody said you should "shut up". Please try reading.



And that speculation, just like yours, is baseless at this time. Funny that you seem to have an issue with that speculation, but think yours is special.



Right - it could be any number of things. I don't know, and neither do you.

Nobody is "censoring" anything. If you want to skip the intelligent route of knowing what happened before coming to conclusions, that's your affair.

People with some class and compassion for the families of the deceased and wounded, on the other hand, will simply offer condolence and wait until they actually know something before making declarations.

Matt
You're injecting emotion into this, not me.

I'd much prefer to hash all this over from every different possible angle rather than just offering condolences and waiting around......waiting around for what?

If this ends up being SJS (Sudden Jihad Syndrome), than we need to have an adult national conversation about the implications of that, too, because there are plenty of good Arab-Americans in the military who could be at risk of a heinous backlash from freerepublic type losers who insist on injecting emotion into everything instead of stopping and thinking.

I say we should talk about all this shit and leave the emotional crap to the people who were actually involved in this tragedy, because from what little we do know, some people's true colors are already seeping out.
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Re: 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting

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Oh, for the love of God, people!

Right know, we do not know why this attack took place.

Here's what we do know - there are up to 40,000 families worried about their loved ones right now. My neighbor's kid is at Ft. Hood, and they can't get any information yet. They don't even know if he was in the same area of the base or, God forbid, a victim.

Once - just once - could we at least wait until the victims are identified and the bodies are cool before starting a bunch of political / religious finger pointing?

Show some human compassion, for fuck's sake......
'Tis truly sad, Matt.

But that doesn't mean the motives behind it shouldn't be discussed.

And there are over 50,000 people at Ft. Hood. I'm sure your neighbor's kid is fine...
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