Actually, no.

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well hers an interesting tidbit...

Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists

Major Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque led by a radical imam said to be a "spiritual adviser" to three of the hijackers who attacked America on Sept 11, 2001.

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.




Fort Hood shooting: Texas army killer linked to September 11 terrorists - Telegraph

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I addressed the question to everyone in the thread

What do you think we should do to or with all the muslims in the US as a result of this, if anything?

I'll go first, nothing. This guy was a devout muslim and he went crazy, like most devout people who go insane he incorporated his religion into his insanity, for us to strike back at the religion would be as insane as the original act was to begin with

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Excellent post that addresses a complex issue.

I am uncomfortable with the easy use of the words 'crazy' and 'insane'. They is used far too often to avoid any personal responsibility. It seems that ANY criminal is automatically considered 'crazy' and must be understood in terms of mental illness rather than as criminals.

The brutal, premeditated slaughter of other human beings is an evil act. It always has been and always will be.

Btw George and Laura Bush spent about 2 hours or so with all of the victims and family members of the attack on Fort Hood last night. (Their ranch is only about 30 miles away from the base, so its not that long a trip).

He is the only sitting or former President to have been to the base, the hospitals where the wounded ar at or to meet with family members of the wounded or deceased, which speaks volumes. (Bush senior is overseas atm, so i guess he can be excused).

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I'm not yet sure that the guy can be passed off as "crazy". Seems that there is increasing testimony from fellow students and soldiers that he had been outspoken against US foreign policy in the Middle East for quite some time, even when he was a graduate student. This is what they are saying made him a "lightning rod" to those who heard his views. Of course, he's going to make it sound like people just picked on him for just being Muslim. That's expected from him. Given that he's now killed 13 people, he really doesn't warrant much credit for himself. Whatever he has told his family or whatever he says now, I will take with a grain of salt.

I'm not arguing that point. My problem is with people who want to attack all the muslims in the US because of this one evil man who did this evil thing.

I totally agree though, that being crazy is not usually a valid excuse. You can hear voices in your head all the time, that doesn't mean you have to listen.

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That was good of them, they deserve credit for that.

I always thought GWB seemed to be personally a likable fellow. He was one of the few President's with a good sense of humor.

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You know who they sound like? Americans....or Russians,... or Chinese....

You've got to be careful when you draw conclusions from how people from different cultures talk about different things, particularly death. Japanese people will tell you how their whole family was killed and then make a joke about it. Yet grief for the dead is a bigger part of their culture and religion than most Americans would find healthy.

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If this is true, why was this Imam allowed to preach hatred and insanity from 9/11 till today. How many people he may have brainwashed till today? Maybe not only Hassan.... maybe there are others.

The authorities need to crack down on people like him. The FBI should take responsibility.

My point is, Muslims have had enough of people preaching hatred. The results of this preaching affect both the Muslim community and others in society. Maybe the FBI should work closely with leaders in the Muslim community to deport these individuals who preach hatred. Thats exactly what needs to be done, before its too late and am sure the Muslim community will be very cooperative.

WS.

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C'mon man, that still doesn't prove Islam had anything to do with it..

God man, try using like "logic"...

Can't a man just practice sharia law and yell "allah akabar" before killing 12 without having it tied to religion. People are too quick to jump to conclusions...

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Because our pussy PC culture tolerates it.

Were forced to look the other way because liberals don't want to "offend" Muslims who happen to be a minority in this country.

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No that wouldnt offend muslims. Getting rid of hate preachers would do Muslims a favour. What offends muslims is shit like.... "Oh the guy who shot 13 is a Muslim ... therefore all you Muslims are evil and so is Islam."

WS.

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"Maybe"?

I'd say "likely".

Of course, people like Drake are all too willing to allow something like this to happen again, somewhere else.

Until such time as they come out in unison to condemn such acts, muslims in this country should be monitored, followed, have their phone lines tapped, their mail inspected, and their garbage gone through.

The condemnation will not be forthcoming, though. Even Hasan's imam was unable to condemn him, for no other reason than Hasan was a muslim. It should be clear to all that islam is more important to muslims than allegiance to their country, and that's dangerous...

Agreed.

Of course, when they do, you'll complain about that...

What makes you think there will be any cooperation coming from leaders in the muslim community? Hasan murders 13 people, and his imam; one of those "leaders in the muslim community" refuses to condemn him.

Why not? Well, because he's "a fellow muslim".

If leaders in the muslim community refuse to condemn someone who commits such a heinous act, why should we expect that they'll help deport a muslim who preaches hatred?

No, the muslim community has proven they are unwilling to be cooperative. Accordingly, any resolution with regards to them should be decided on without input or influence from them...

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