Baseless judgments? Right. How many Islamist terrorist attacks before you wake up?

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One of my uncles was at the time (Lt Col, USA, Ret.). He's long been a naturalised citizen since then though.

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Your compassion for the families has been noted, but it does not make you more righteous because you use it to ignore the fact that there is a specific crowd in America, foaming at the mouth, at the end of their leash right now just waiting to kick some muslim ass before knowing everything yet.

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Thank God we have you here to look down your nose at all us dumb ol' Americans and instruct us on what we "need" right now....

Whatever would we do without you, Jason?

I'm through listening to your bullshit for the night. Going to go check on my neighbors and see if they've heard anything about their son yet.

Right - and you are just as wrong as they are. You're both jumping to conclusions, Jason.

You are no different than these folks you say are "foaming at the mouth". Not one bit.

So maybe you could take your own advice here and not jump to conclusions.....

There are other Muslim servicemen that have killed fellow soldiers based on their religion or heritage, but as far as I know, no Muslims have gone on a rampage NOT motivated thusly. The laws of probability demand we examine religious extremism as a motive.

The point is that your statements are total bullshit!

Just to mention....I am only stating facts as have been released from either the military or elected officials.

He was a Major.
He recently converted to Islam and changed his name.
He had been voicing anger and frustration for several weeks about having to fight in the M.E.
The FBI was called in due to possible terrorist ties, to either confirm or dismiss that this man had any ties with known terrorist.
These are facts as told by military personnel, a TX Senator and congressman.

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Your last question there will be the test for the country if it comes out that it's some kind of ugly sleeper-cell thing. I'm afraid the answer to be yes, though, since America is a country that is readily available and willing to lose it's emotional shit over stuff like this instead of just breathing and taking the time to stop and think.

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Apparently, you only have compassion for the perps who actually commit murder. The rest of us aren't worthy of your empathy or a "national conversation".

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Matt, you yourself are also jumping to conclusions.

Earlier you offered the possibilities that your neighbor's son might have been one of the victims or that he wasn't in that part of the base. Your neighbors don't know.

There actually is another possibility, however remote.

The bottom line is that events like this in a post 9/11 world make it incredibly easy to jump to conclusions. People we know and are familiar with are never the "bad guys". Your neighbor's son couldn't be the bad guy, you just instinctively know that. Likewise, someone with a muslim name must be the bad guy because we're not familiar with that (at least we're not familiar in a friendly or close way).

We all jump to conclusions even if we try not to. And yes, since we're not there as part of the SWAT team shooting at bad guys we should have the patience to wait until the facts come out before pointing fingers. In any case the families of all involved deserve our condolences. Regardless of motives it is a huge tragedy. I do agree completely on that. And I hope for your neighbor's sake that their son is safe.

I know people who have fought and died overseas, too, I just reject to use it as some kind of tool or weapon to try to make it seem like you're better because of your compassion.

I'm just not the type to talk too freely about that shit.

But if it's too emotional for you to want to talk about all the issues this thing is bringing up, that's your perogative, and I shouldn't be a target because I'm one of the ones who can grieve and talk about other things at the same time.

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“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."-Sarah Palin, not having a clue once again about what she is talking about.

Thanks for demonstrating a complete and utter lack of understand of statistics.

I have a feeling that no further tragedy will occur if we just wait to see what actually happened. It's not really necessary to speculate. We should know enough to start slinging blame by 8AM tomorrow. Why guess?

I find it interesting that some like to believe (Jason marcel) that this has nothing to do with the fact that this creep is a recent muslim convert.

Of course that is possible.

We have seen many examples of muslims that take action against America or Americans though, so considering this as a possibiity is perfectly justified.

Lets see if we're told the entire story though, we may not be, depending on what its really about.

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