Yeah, it's better to have the "talking points" out there and solidify the P/C position first.

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Nah. It's better to jump to conclusions before the Army investigators make any substantive statements, as you've so amply demonstrated.

That's just more typical emotional drivel.

You know, it used to be that libs were considered the bleeding hearts in America, but it's really the conservatives who are the sentimentalists about everything now.

This is a forum to discuss political things. If you want to display compassion and condolences, than do it and send it somewhere concrete.

To me it just seems like a bunch of masturbating to come to a political forum in order to simply display your grief.

Just because I'm not crying on this forum about stuff like this, doesn't mean I don't cry on my own time.

I simply prefer to stick with ideas instead of coming to a political forum to put my hand over my heart or some such thing.

And this is probably going to piss a lot of people off too: If America really had compassion for it's troops, the country would have rejected any notion of cutting taxes in wartime and instead would have invested in them better.

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Its not abnormal to speculate when things like this happen. People want to know why it happened and they will speculate endlessly until the facts are out. (and then the conspiracy theories and everything will come out as well). I don't have any problem with it - its pretty normal behavior.

Andrew

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Well, if he's a Muslim, and he had a serious issue with us being in Iraq because he was a Muslim, that's all a reasonable person would need to conclude that he put his faith before his oath and his country...

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UPDATE: He was a psychiatrist and he was upset about being deployed to iraq.

That probably rules out PTSD.

Andrew

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Sorry, I mean Jason is and I mentioned it for informational purposes only given most don't know that. EagleTed brought up the other point, and I merely told him that one of my uncles was an Army Major who hadn't yet become a naturalised US citizen (he had finished out his requirements and was heading into the naturalisation process at the time).

As for this alleged perpetrator (final facts are still forthcoming) and assuming on initial reports those statements turn out accurate, that's absolutely true. I'd go a step further that he violated his oath no matter what his reason(s) are for doing what he did.

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Wow, the guy was a medical professional. A psychiatrist.

He wasn't just some macho-dickhead then but an intellectual type. That's fascinating.

I don't know how if you're a muslim-American-psychiatrist-Major in the U.S. military you wouldn't naturally kind of drive yourself crazy.

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This jackass was a newly minted Major, newly Islamic convert, Army psychiatrist; the chances of him having seen line combat seem remote.

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What I tried to say, admittedly clumsily, was that Major Hasan being a recent convert to Islam, coupled with the rarity of Muslims in the military makes it all the more likely that his motive was religion. If the motive was, say PTSD, the shooter would have been 33 times more likely to be a non Muslim.
Please forgive my verbal clumsiness. I promise to forgive your pomposity.

I've actually found the people who enter psychology/psychiatry are usually pretty messed up in the head themselves, which is possibly why they choose such a field, to figure themselves out.

Makes you wonder who the psychiatrists are for the psychiatrists. Especially for the ones who have to deal with just the worst of the worst stories and images from war.

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+1

I was going to post the same.

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Oh, I'm sorry; let me be more clear:

If there's a "national conversation" to be had, Canada need not have a part in it.

Why?

Because it's Canada...

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When it can be logically inferred that your conclusions are likely, then yes. By all means jump. In this case, the odds are very good that his motivation was religious fanaticism it's prudent to start there just like you would start with the spouse in a murder investigation.