Somewhat irrelevant considering that these kids would be dead if they had waited for legal authority.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

What conclusion?

The facts are:

1. She has court dates in the United States.
2. She is now in Haiti.
3. She has demonstrated willingness to break the law by actually breaking laws.

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"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls

"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron

"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu

Ah, but that isn't what you were saying. You were trying to say that her motivation to go to Hait was to skip out on here court date and that is just stupid.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Where did I say her motivation to go to Haiti was to skip out on her court date?

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"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls

"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron

"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu

I already quoted it for you, but here it is again.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

There is a question mark at the end which means it is a question, not a statement.

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"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls

"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron

"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu

Blow smoke all you want, I'm a big boy and games don't fool me. You were trying to imply that was her motivation.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Those wicked Baptists are at it again! Now they are trafficing in children~!


Baptist group accused of child-trafficking in Haiti - The Globe and Mail

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well, if everything we are hearing is accurate, this gal simply sounds like she has a need to help those who are in a terrible bad way. So much so that she neglects her own responsibilities as she perceives them comparatively unimportant and not life threatening. In fact she likely buries herself in giving charity as a means to escape what she believes to be unimportant, her own welfare.

I would like to see a news piece on the orphanage she built.

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How about the fact that she has a history of illegal activity?

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I always find it strange that only reasonable people agree with me.

I’ll just respond to this one inane post slandering me and my religious beliefs.

I don’t hate Christians. I do hate people who use a professed belief system to break laws for their own purposes, especially when their actions are the antithesis of what they profess to believe in. I don’t care if the hypocrites are Christian, Muslim, Druids or atheists. If they profess in a belief system then they should follow that belief system for its own sake and not for personal gain or glory.

I may target Christians more than the other religions simply because they do form the majority of the population and therefore the majority of the offenders. They are an easy target.

I have a lot of respect for people who profess in a belief system and actually follow it, especially when following that belief system is not in their best temporal interests. I have nothing but contempt for people who violate their professed beliefs for their own short term gains or to exercise domination over others. However people who profess in a belief system and do actually follow it are in my experience a small minority of those professing to be believers.

In this case the kidnapper is now is hiding behind the cloak of Christianity to get a pass on her illegal actions. She violated the principles and practices of Christianity and wants to get away with it because she is Christian. A true Christian who wanted to do good despite the laws would then accept the punishment in the belief that the trials and tribulations she experienced her on earth would be rewarded in Heaven.

She lied about her authorization to take the kids. She said that she only had orphans but now it is coming out that she knew that the kids were given up by their parents. Doesn’t her holy book say something about false witness? IS that not the same as lying or can she ignore the parts of the book that are inconvenient at the moment because she truly believes? Of course if she truly believed then she would also believe that she did not have to lie in the first place.

She broke local laws. Does not the Bible say something about obeying the law of the civil authorities?

If she was a true believer then she would welcome her upcoming period of incarceration as an opportunity to show the sacrifices that she is willing to make for her faith rather than wining about being just a good Christian who deserves a pass on the kidnapping attempt.

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I always find it strange that only reasonable people agree with me.

Threads merged

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Oh for jesus fucks sake, haven't you people even noticed slightly what she's accused of in the US?

It's the old Secret Shopper Con, and that's what this woman obviously is, a professional con artist.

And yes, she fled the US to Haiti and either decided or meant to use the EQ to facilitate this con while she was there or took advantage of it once it happened. That's what con artists DO. It's their BUSINESS to often cover one scheme with another.

I'll lay you MONEY this woman has either Irish Traveler or bad Gypsy connections

I'm sorry, but the naivete of anyone defending this woman as "well-intentioned" and just not having the proper paperwork is un-fucking-believable. It justifies everything that is ever said about religious people being taken advantage by others who know they're blinded to evil by their religion.

I especially liked the part that some of the children had parents, it's like a Monty Python sketch.
It

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IT'S ON YOUTUBE, IT MUST BE TRUE

yea she fled the US to Haiti via building an Orphanage in the Dominican Republic.

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The bush administration and bank lobbyists proudly killing our economic system - 2003.

Here is some information:

Idaho Baptist Adoption Suspects Planned to ‘Gather’ 100 Haitian Orphans, Cross Border | ChattahBox News Blog

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"Justice is the first virtue of social institutions, as truth is of systems of thought." - John Rawls

"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. " - Lord Byron

"Knowledge makes men gentle, and reason inclines toward humanity; only prejudices cause these to be renounced." - Montesquieu