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    Union Negotiation

    This is how it's done folks:

    The following is the unedited email:

    Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

    WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we've had enough. We feel that you and the people that support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand for it any longer. So, this is how it's going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it's a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn't leave it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message to you since you are so "high" on Koch and have decided that you are now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent.

    This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won't tell you all of them because that's just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it's necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We Will "get rid of" (in which I mean kill) you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel that it's worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!
    Capitol Chaos: Lawmakers Get Death Threats | Newsradio 620 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Talk, Sports, Weather | Local Headlines

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    This is organized labor.

    Where is the condemnations from the left? Where is the President and his “we thrive together” campaign? Where is Secretary Napolitano and her fight against domestic terrorism?

    Let’s talk about “new tone” now, shall we?

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    Re: Union Negotiation

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Where is the President and his “we thrive together” campaign?
    He needs to make an appearance up there.

    And give away tee shirts.
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    Re: Union Negotiation

    tsquare, this is embarrassing, even for you.

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    Re: Union Negotiation

    tsquare, this sort of behavior exists in just about all groups. While this sort of thing is not worthy of any defense I agree, it is also very dishonest to suggest this is behavior exclusive to unions, organized labor, etc. Not sure that is what you are really saying of course but this is just one of many examples of threats being made against public officials for something. Personally, I just hope this person responsible for this letter is caught but I for one will not hold the entire union responsible for this until someone proves the union advocates this behavior.
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    Did a freeper write that to get some attention?
    Liberals fail to recognize that modern conservatives are direct evidence of the failure of the public education system.


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    Re: Union Negotiation

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    tsquare, this is embarrassing, even for you.
    Really Pram?

    I would think that you'd be the one embarrassed. These are the ones that you have supported and spoke out for. These you have marched with arm in arm ... rhetorically here for weeks. Are you abandoning them now that the chips are down?

    These are your people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
    Did a freeper write that to get some attention?
    Yeah... it has to be the right. And I'm sure they were put up to it by the Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo View Post
    tsquare, this sort of behavior exists in just about all groups. While this sort of thing is not worthy of any defense I agree, it is also very dishonest to suggest this is behavior exclusive to unions, organized labor, etc. Not sure that is what you are really saying of course but this is just one of many examples of threats being made against public officials for something. Personally, I just hope this person responsible for this letter is caught but I for one will not hold the entire union responsible for this until someone proves the union advocates this behavior.
    While at the same time the whole of the right (the Tea Party) was had accountable for the shooting in Arizona AND didn't have a thing to do with it!

    Good old double standard there...

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    Re: Union Negotiation

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    This is how it's done folks:

    The following is the unedited email:



    Capitol Chaos: Lawmakers Get Death Threats | Newsradio 620 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Talk, Sports, Weather | Local Headlines

    Fear
    Intimidation
    Threats

    This is organized labor.

    Where is the condemnations from the left? Where is the President and his “we thrive together” campaign? Where is Secretary Napolitano and her fight against domestic terrorism?

    Let’s talk about “new tone” now, shall we?

    But when your friend and mentor Glenn Beck says to shoot people in the head, that's okay, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Really Pram?

    I would think that you'd be the one embarrassed. These are the ones that you have supported and spoke out for. These you have marched with arm in arm ... rhetorically here for weeks. Are you abandoning them now that the chips are down?

    These are your people...

    Please.

    For all anyone knows, YOU could have written that letter. It is not an indictment of anything except one individual. It has nothing to do with organized labor, teachers, or anything else. And shame on you for trying to make it so. You should be embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    While at the same time the whole of the right (the Tea Party) was had accountable for the shooting in Arizona AND didn't have a thing to do with it!

    Good old double standard there...
    The Tea Party did not "was had" accountability for the shooting in Arizona; it was just really unfortunate that in all the rants of the shooter, he only just happened to sound exactly like their dumb asses.


    Was had, bro?

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    Re: Union Negotiation

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Please.

    For all anyone knows, YOU could have written that letter. It is not an indictment of anything except one individual. It has nothing to do with organized labor, teachers, or anything else. And shame on you for trying to make it so. You should be embarrassed.
    Always deflect... always attack... never answer for your own side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    While at the same time the whole of the right (the Tea Party) was had accountable for the shooting in Arizona AND didn't have a thing to do with it!

    Good old double standard there...
    Perhaps by some but surely not by me. I at no time held the Tea Party as responsible for what happened out in AZ, and curious if you have an instance where I did? I just saying if there are those out there defending this letter yet all up in Tea Party responsibility for AZ then you have a double standard you can accuse people of. But even then I suspect you will have to generalize people to do it. You have someone, an example, in our forums showing what I am speaking of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Always deflect... always attack... never answer for your own side.
    For fuck's sake, man. One asshole with a typewriter isn't "my side," and I sure as shit don't have to answer for his/her actions. I can't stop him/her from writing the letter. I can't turn him/her in because I don't know who it is.

    I think it's deplorable, and I hope that the individual is caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I hope that nobody is actually injured, and that it's just another blowhard rather than a credible threat.

    But, to suggest that this has anything to do with organized labor in general is stupid beyond stupid.

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    Re: Union Negotiation

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    For fuck's sake, man. One asshole with a typewriter isn't "my side," and I sure as shit don't have to answer for his/her actions. I can't stop him/her from writing the letter. I can't turn him/her in because I don't know who it is.

    I think it's deplorable, and I hope that the individual is caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I hope that nobody is actually injured, and that it's just another blowhard rather than a credible threat.

    But, to suggest that this has anything to do with organized labor in general is stupid beyond stupid.
    Exactly - it's one jackass. Extrapolating that to the entire union-represented population is beyond silly.

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