Thread: Stunning outcome in Casey Anthony trial: Not guilty of Murder and Child Abuse

Originally Posted by John Drake

Just how did she cause or contribute to the child's death?

Otherwise you're saying she should be either killed or put away for a long time for being afraid no one would believe the child had died by accident, which, in fact, none of you appear to DESPITE the fact that the JURY, apparently, did.

You're inventing things you wish I said again, John. Please quote my saying anywhere that I thought that "she should be either killed or put away for a long time"?

Having watched the trial, I am confused as to how the jury concluded Casey had no culpability in the death of the child. The circumstantial case was very strong.

Matt

Somebody tell me how the little girl died?

Assuming that her daughter's death was accidental, I can certainly understand her reluctance to report this to authorities in a backwards, bloodthirsty state that is notorious for convictions based solely on circumstantial evidence.

If this had occurred in a halfway sane, enlightened state (bearing in mind that in a country like this, sanity and enlightenment are hard to come by in even the best places), such as Vermont, then the mother's behavior would have been a lot less understandable.

Originally Posted by bigTlilODD

No, the jury most likely thought either

A) someone other than Casey did it.
B) if she did do it, the prosecution left reasonable doubt that she did.

From what I have read of the prosecution's case, the defense arguments and the judges charge to the jury it would seem it's 'B'.

My guess is it was a mistake to go for murder one and the death penalty....juries really don't like killing people.

Originally Posted by Traveler

Wow...aquitted of all the major counts, will get the 4 counts of lying to authorities as her punishment and that's it. She'll likely get credit for time served (3 and a half years) and if Belvin Perry doesnt get the counts to serve consecutively, even with the solo year for each count Casey will likely walk out of Jail a free woman come Friday morning.

Stunning - even when i thought they wouldn't get it on Murder 1, the odds of them aquitting on everything must leave a lot of folks scratching their heads.

Wow, just wow.

I had a strong feeling this morning that she was going to be aquited which is funny because I would have bet a years pay she would be found guilty.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

You're inventing things you wish I said again, John. Please quote my saying anywhere that I thought that "she should be either killed or put away for a long time"?

Having watched the trial, I am confused as to how the jury concluded Casey had no culpability in the death of the child. The circumstantial case was very strong.

Matt

You apparently believe the evidence warrants a conviction for negligent homicide, which would generally get you 20 to life. I think that's a long time. You made no argument with Traveler's idea to "put the DP back on the table"

A strong circumstantial case is still circumstantial. While the saying that people are often convicted on circumstantial evidence is proverbial it is still a bad precedent, because that means the same thing could happen to anyone, you or me, whether we'd actually done anything or not.

Besides, I fail to see how being seen in a club smiling and getting a tatoo constitute strong circumstances. Trying to cover up an accidental death is a terrible misjudgement but that could easily be explained by fear. The prosecution obviously didn't prove that the girl had died from duct tape because they never proved ANY cause of death

Originally Posted by John Drake

You apparently believe the evidence warrants a conviction for negligent homicide, which would generally get you 20 to life. I think that's a long time. You made no argument with Traveler's idea to "put the DP back on the table"

You've presented no counter-argument to Elvis being alive, therefore you believe that?

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by John Drake

A strong circumstantial case is still circumstantial. While the saying that people are often convicted on circumstantial evidence is proverbial it is still a bad precedent, because that means the same thing could happen to anyone, you or me.

In the end, it is what it is. I don't think Casey is innocent in the death of her child, but that really does not matter.

Matt

Originally Posted by MattInFla

I'm not surprised the jury did not return murder 1, but no culpability in her death is amazing.

Yeah same - i figured there would be some conviction(s) on the lesser charges + the lying to authorities, but not the Murder charge.

I think she should have even entered a guilty plea to the charges of lying to authorities - i don't understand how they can plead not guilty to those but admit that she made up the stuff about the babysitter as part of their defense!

Originally Posted by John Drake

As for the "slavering" note the bolded part above where we suggest twisting the law worse than a pretzel to kill someone.

Clearly you have no concept of how the felony murder law works nor do you understand the context of my comments at all. Perhaps you should look at the statute, and the definition of the law, along with the state law of FL and how it may be used by prosecutors to file charges based on equal culpability where the direct crime is not committed before you go running your mouth about twisting the law.

Also if you had any idea of what my views were on the felony murder law you wouldn't go blathering on about "twisting" anything - it is the law, nobody is doing anything either to Pretzel's, nor to kill anyone - perhaps you should cone back to the discussion when you have the first clue about the law rather than just what your skiewed view of it is and isn't, and what you determine to be justice.

Originally Posted by Traveler

Wow...aquitted of all the major counts, will get the 4 counts of lying to authorities as her punishment and that's it. She'll likely get credit for time served (3 and a half years) and if Belvin Perry doesnt get the counts to serve consecutively, even with the solo year for each count Casey will likely walk out of Jail a free woman come Friday morning.

Stunning - even when i thought they wouldn't get it on Murder 1, the odds of them aquitting on everything must leave a lot of folks scratching their heads.

Wow, just wow.

Who's going to play Casey in the movie? Any guesses?

Originally Posted by John Drake

And that IS what makes our system great. This woman was not rich and everybody had convicted her already because it was possibly such a heinous crime, yet the evidence was not there, two of you admitted as much, yet one of was still slavering to kill SOMEBODY.

You know what - go on, back that up, with just one shred of evidence of anybody here slavering to kill anyone. Not your warped, uneducated interpretation of someone else's words, but someone actually "slavering to kill somebody".

Originally Posted by Invisible-Bob

I had a strong feeling this morning that she was going to be aquited which is funny because I would have bet a years pay she would be found guilty.

Yeah originally i thought this would be a slam dunk case, as the trial went on i think the chances of having a conviction certainly went down, and i didn't think the Murder charge was even close to being proven. (Irrelevant of whatever JD may think).

The fact Ashton and co went for the strongest possible charge they really should have made sure they had a water tight case, and they clearly didn't. I guess with the limited information we all have seen through the trial the question we would ask ourselves is: If we were sat on that Jury which way would we have gone?

How did the little girl die?