Try again. I said we were FOR it back then.It showed the Soviets that since we were the first there, should it have been necessary to do so, we could have gone back. Symbolically it was the right thing to do. Realistically, we showed them they could not have gained superiority in space and as such we felt it would be a deterrent to TRY.Some things could, but there's no guarantee most of the things WOULD have been done. And a lot of things that spun off from the space program were intended specifically for the space program. They found other uses later. Many inventions do not supply a need, they CREATE a need. Like the microwave oven. There was no need for it, because everybody already had ovens and were quite happy with them. But when someone noticed the magnetron tube (the WW2 RADAR tube) could melt chocolate and the microwave was born. Nobody needed it, most couldn't afford it originally, but it made its own market. NASA spinoffs are much the same.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Oh Come on,

We can all see your Russian Flag on your profile.

Obviously you people(yeah I said you people) didn't make it to the Moon and you are whining like a sore loser.

So HA HA HA. Seriously Slon, I was just kidding.

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One day, I will sneak across the border into Canada and be an illegal alien. It will be fun.

Um, I never suggested any such thing.

Reading is, indeed, fundamental...

No, you'll "discuss" it until you realize that such debate is pretty silly, then you'll say "I WIN!", because we all know how important that is to a child's self-esteem...

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That is why I said you should have financed it privately, unless of course you mean to say EVERYONE in the US supported it.Why exactly would have been necessary to come back? And why was it necessary to show that you could do so?Uh, why?But they DID have the superiority in space at some point. First man in space, for instance. What you mean to say is "superiority in first man in space," perhaps? And why is that important again? And I don't mean "First X in Y"-wise, I mean realistically important.A guy could find a briefcase with 1 million dollars in it on his way to blowing up a movie theater, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Is there some resource that we gathered in space or on the moon that could not have been obtained otherwise?Don't you feel they could have been researched in more specific fields, perhaps more cheaply?Such as?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

I didn't say you suggested it....for you.Whatever, Steve. Go troll somewhere else.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

"Troll"?

You want to argue that we shouldn't have gone to the Moon because it was hard.

That's absurd...

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What I said was that the quote did not contain a reason to go to moon EXCEPT that it is hard, which I do not consider a good reason, when it is on it's own, to do something.

For instance, sawing your hand off with a dull knife is hard. That doesn't mean I want to do it, if "it is hard" is the only reason. Now, if you provide another reason to do it, such as "your hand is stuck under a truck which is about to explode...AND it is hard," I would reconsider it.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

I say what I mean, and what I said was "Except for the fact that almost the whole country was behind the space program."
As I said, it would serve as a deterrent. There were fears of orbiting platforms with nuclear weapons, and there were also fears (probably groundless, but there were real fears at the time) that The USSR would have a base on the Moon. We WERE enemies at the time, you know.Don't tell me what I mean to say. If you're such a mind reader you ought to know what I think of that shit right about now.

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

I think it's funny, as well as mildly pathetic, that you enjoy arguing such moot points. Right or wrong, it's done.

But, please, entertain us with your silly arguments as to why it was a bad idea...

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And as I said, if you want to do something for no reason other than "it is hard," do it privately.A deterrent from what? Having them also send a guy to the moon? What a great accomplishment that would have been! Yes, save them some money. What do orbiting platforms have to do with going to the moon? Groundless fears? Sounds like a good way to spend money. So if they did make a base on the moon, what exactly would that allow them to do again? Plant a bigger flag?So it was a matter of saying "look, we can outspend you," huh? What a good way to spend taxpayer money. Oh, and don't forget "it is hard."Actually, I asked you if that is what you meant to say. See the question mark?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

So why are you posting in a thread dealing with that topic?

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

So an historical event can't be discussed?

I enjoy discussing historical events.

I also enjoy watching people post themselves into foolishness.

Please... continue...

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You complained about my posting on this item, so I asked you why you still post here:

So you deride me for arguing about the topic, yet you continue to post here. Interesting.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.

I didn't complain, I merely pointed out the futility of arguing the merits of something like this. You're transparent; everyone knows where this is going. You'll debate pointless arguments into the ground and then proclaim "I WIN"!

How do you propose, with anything concrete and indisputable, that we shouldn't have gone to the moon?

The derision is warranted. You're going to ignore and discount anything and everything presented as to why we went to the moon; we all know this...

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If you feel it's futile, why are you still posting here?Uh, Steve, since you think arguing about the topic is futile, why are you still here?Maybe you haven't noticed, but I am discussing it with Scribbler. And my argument is that the quote mentioned earlier only contains one reason for going to the moon: that it is hard. For me, that is not enough.

You're question is interesting in that it apparently ignores what I have said.Really? Then how come I am specifically addressing points posted by Scribbler?

What is the point?

Looks like you can add dishonesty to your list of wonderful qualities.

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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.