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Old 02-22-2008
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Re: Navy missile hits satellite

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I don't want to sound grumpy, but wouldn't it be cheaper to just design the things with a self-destruct mechanism? Just send the signal, and save a few million bucks...
The problem with that would be that someone (some foreign country, some organization, some techno-geek-hacker, etc.) could figure out how to make it detonate itself without even needing to have the technology to send a missile up there and blow it.

In other words, that would be a serious vulnerability.
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Re: Navy missile hits satellite

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I personally doubt it. If the US wanted to simply test a missile, we'd probably just say we're testing a missile. We test missiles quite often, not sure why we'd need to concoct a cover story for this one. In fact, I'd go as far to say that it would actually be beneficial to test a missile without everyone watching, as was the case here. That way, if you mess up, you don't completely embarrass yourself.
Well, that would be a reason for a concoction. If the military can't afford an embarrassment but, as is the reality of today, can't really prevent prying eyes then it just has to "place" it outside its own ranks. That way they wouldn't care if everyone's watching an event that no one was supposed to watch.

Whatever the mission, I congratulate the crew. Good job!
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Re: Navy missile hits satellite

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The problem with that would be that someone (some foreign country, some organization, some techno-geek-hacker, etc.) could figure out how to make it detonate itself without even needing to have the technology to send a missile up there and blow it.

In other words, that would be a serious vulnerability.
Yes, but if you can can hack into the satellite's commos you don't need a bomb to take it out. Just screw with its thrusters, it'll fall down. Nice avatar.
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Can't find a number. Best I could find was the satellite was moving at twice the speed of the missile upon impact. That'd make a speed of at least mach 10 for the missile. I imagine it moves that fast because there's less air resistance in the upper atmosphere.

That's correct about speed being uninhibited by atmospheric resistance in space and increasing proportionally as you descend in altitude.

This is how I calculated 17,000 miles per hour at 130 miles up to register a speed of Mach 22:

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~17,000 mph is a common orbital velocity of geosynchronous satellites, but as far as I know there is not a missile (fastest missiles go about 10,000 mph) that can approach this speed.

It was an intercept, and so the missile had no need to match the velocity of the target. It only needed to be at the exact right place at the exact right time to intersect the trajectory. It's a precision strike that is not easy to pull off. That means the weapons system was very accurate.
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yes , good kill......mach 22? humm......I would like to know how fast the rockets are moving that we are shooting down with the missile defense system...the satellite is not going near as fast, so those are even more impressive I would imagine...
If a Ballistic missile were to travel as fast as a satellite then the missile would become a satellite.
Orbital velocity and all that.

Re-Entry speeds would be about the same for an ICBM and an out of control satellite.

Quick check reveals ICBM re-entry phase begins at 4 KPS= aproximately 8,948 MPH

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