I've not said we shouldn't have put men on the moon. ..

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

You've repeatedly implied that there was no technological reason to put men on the moon. These are quotes from you:

All of these quotes indicate you think there was no tangible technological reason to set foot on the moon.

If there is no tangible technological reason for men to set foot on the moon, and yet you now say "I've not said we shouldn't have put men on the moon."

In other words, your logic is all over the place. Why do you feel we should have put men on the moon since all of your posts claim there was no reason for it?

Reported for incitement and baiting.

If I thought there was no reason to put men on the moon, I'd have said so.

I've not done that, yet you continue to dishonestly represent my position as such.

Simply asking the questions does not "indicate" anything more than a desire for an answer. Could we have gotten those advances without putting men there? In tha case of most of them, probably. Does that mean I think we shouldn't have gone to the moon?

Not in the least...

Well, it was grossly dishonest, as my position is not at all similar to what you say it is.

Ergo, I find your suggestion, that it is my position, to be fucking retarded.

If that bothers you, perhaps you could put a tad more forethought into your posts before you intentionally misrepresent someone's position.

I've baited no one. As for "inciting", well, perhaps. Maybe I'm hopeful that it'll incite you to be honest...

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Why do you feel we should have put men on the moon?

For a little bit of prospective, remember the LCROSS/Centaur Impactor is just a piece of the $583 million Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission (LRO). This includes $90 million for a Atlas V 401 launcher.

The LCROSS section is an add on piece to the Centaur upper stage propulsion module used to escape our gravity well. The idea is to reuse the largely empty Centaur as a projectile, which is typically disposed of in the atmosphere, to gouge ejecta out of the regolith at the bottom of the permanently shadowed Cabeus Crater, were previous orbiters indicated a high concentration of hydrogen. The LRO/LCROSS/Centaur stack is currently in lunar polar orbit, and the LRO will detach and go on its merry way. The LCROSS will then separate from the Centaur, and follow it into Cabeus, imaging the blast at close range, flying through the plume, and then impact itself.

In the mean time, for the next several years the LRO will continue to investigate:

• Selenodetic global topography.
• Characterization of deep space radiation in lunar orbit.
• The lunar polar regions, including possible water ice deposits and the lighting environment. The lunar polar regions experience temperatures of −223 °C (−369.4 °F) and may be able to hold water ice.[16]
• High-resolution mapping (max 0.5 metres (1.6 ft)) to assist in the selection and characterization of future landing sites

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Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not responding to you anymore.

I'd hate to pass comment on the quality of your comments and have you take them, incorrectly, as some sort of personal attack and report them. It's clear to me that you're incapable of differentiating between a comment about the quality of your opinion and some personal attack or incitement.

Know this: If I intend to attack, incite, insult, or bait you, I will do so, and there will be little question that I have done so...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Whats the interest on 79 million dollars we had to borrow?

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Greetings and Felicitations,

So. They are using a piece of the rocket that is usually just wasted to gather scientific data.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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We... didn't need to actually go to the moon... we would have come up with the advances in technology without actually going there.

Does that sum it up your position?

Yeah.
Its one of these, with only one engine...

With this attached...

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"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

BTW, for all the nerds out there, here's a listing of public events that will be observing the impact on the 9th:

NASA - Where and how to observe the LCROSS impacts

It's pretty early in the morning, but they're showing it on a 40 foot HDTV in DC, so it sounds pretty damn tempting...

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Yes, pretty tempting.

A front row seat to the end of the world...

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Greetings and Felicitations,

I am a big fan of complete utilization of resources and our space program needs a major dose. We use a lot of disposable technology within it. The ISS was originally planned for destruction in a couple of years and if that happens it will be a complete waste of significant effort simply because we can't plan with a long enough vision.
One of the problems with our space program is the serious lack of long term goals. Its way too easy to only focus on short-term goals and plans. I think its a symptom of the way our government is run because every four years we have a completely different set of priorities.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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You attack, incite and bait the majority of the forum.

I happen to report it when it is directed towards me.

If you cannot answer a very direct question which you expect other people to answer, and which I myself have answered, then you aren't worth having discussion with either. Congratulations, you are on ignore, something I have only done to 1 other person in 15 years of posting on BBS's.