Thread: Government Run Football

Originally Posted by goober

All NFL teams are privately owned, except the Green Bay Packers, who are government owned and run, and the most successful team with 13 NFL championships.
So the government run football team isn't better than most privately owned teams, it's better than all of them. In the long run.

How about that?

Since government generally screws up almost everything that it touches, your claim seemed far-fetched.

According to Wikipedia, it turns out that it is. Snip:

"As of June 8, 2005, 112,015 people (representing 4,750,934 shares) can lay claim to a franchise ownership interest. Shares of stock include voting rights, but the redemption price is minimal, no dividends are ever paid, the stock cannot appreciate in value (though private sales often exceed the face value of the stock), and stock ownership brings no season ticket privileges. No shareholder may own over 200,000 shares, a safeguard to ensure that no individual can assume control of the club. To run the corporation, a board of directors is elected by the stockholders".

Green Bay Packers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by goober

All NFL teams are privately owned, except the Green Bay Packers, who are government owned and run, and the most successful team with 13 NFL championships.
So the government run football team isn't better than most privately owned teams, it's better than all of them. In the long run.

How about that?

Actually, the Packers are a corporation with shareholders. I guess you meant to argue that corporations are great?

Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport

Actually, the Packers are a corporation with shareholders. I guess you meant to argue that corporations are great?

A non-profit corporation, no money going to the shareholders, and the proceeds from the sale of the team must go entirely to charity.
It's a community owned team. With over 105,000 shareholders who elect the board.
No profit motive possible.

Notice how Green Bay and Pittsburg are able to put together championship NFL teams. But why not in baseball? Where are the Pirates? Why doesn't Green Bay have a MLB team?

Because the NFL is socialized. They pool their TV revenue and share it equally, like regular commies.

MLB is more free market. The teams with the deepest pockets (NY, Bostons) win. Everyone else is just along for the ride.

Apart from the factual inaccuracies, this thread has nothing to do with Breaking News in Politics.

Moved the the appropriate section.

Go packers!

Originally Posted by goober

All NFL teams are privately owned, except the Green Bay Packers, who are government owned and run, and the most successful team with 13 NFL championships.
So the government run football team isn't better than most privately owned teams, it's better than all of them. In the long run.

How about that?

Originally Posted by goober

A non-profit corporation, no money going to the shareholders, and the proceeds from the sale of the team must go entirely to charity.
It's a community owned team. With over 105,000 shareholders who elect the board.
No profit motive possible.

(emphasis added)

The claim in the opening post is utterly wrong, and the OP contradicts himself within a couple hours.

How about that?

The Packers MUST be making money literally in large dump trucks that back it up and let it slide off in a huge pile. Maybe all NFL teams share their tv revenue but I don't think they divide the money from selling fifty cent Jerseys for Fifty dollars, do they?

But WHERE, who is getting these milllions?

Is that how they get such a good team, does it all go to buying good players?

And this constantly repeated mantra of "the governnment can't do anything right" is probably the biggest lie conservatives tell. Yeh, sure, the government can't run shit, except all the roads, the National Defense, all the effective police, the biggest and most used shipping service, all space based communication, scientific research of all kinds, even basic utilities in many areas etc, etc etc etc. Compared to other countries the US govt is outstanding, far and away both the best and cheapest in a whole plethora of services many other countries don't even offer, even by govt or "free" enterprise. Conservatives want the US to be a backward shithole of neither services nor taxes, full of barely subsisting workers slaving away for their wealthy masters and, apparently, somehow making untold wealth for them by selling it all to Martians.

We seriously cannot even watch a football game without turning it into something political?

Originally Posted by ThorHammer

We seriously cannot even watch a football game without turning it into something political?

Some people apparently can't, even if they have to make things up in order to politicize it.

Originally Posted by goober

A non-profit corporation, no money going to the shareholders, and the proceeds from the sale of the team must go entirely to charity.
It's a community owned team. With over 105,000 shareholders who elect the board.
No profit motive possible.

Is this the same poster who started the thread? Do you just throw up crap until you are corrected?

Originally Posted by goober

All NFL teams are privately owned, except the Green Bay Packers, who are government owned and run, and the most successful team with 13 NFL championships.

Since the merger of the of the AFL and the NFL the Steelers have to most championships.

Originally Posted by goober

All NFL teams are privately owned, except the Green Bay Packers, who are government owned and run, and the most successful team with 13 NFL championships.
So the government run football team isn't better than most privately owned teams, it's better than all of them. In the long run.

How about that?

(Emphasis mine).

Originally Posted by goober

A non-profit corporation, no money going to the shareholders, and the proceeds from the sale of the team must go entirely to charity.
It's a community owned team. With over 105,000 shareholders who elect the board.
No profit motive possible.

(Emphasis mine).

So were you wrong, or were you lying?