Two threads on the same subject Closed. I think the subject qualifies, and needs to be aired. Tho I do understand why both were closed.

MODS:

How about moving the relevant posts here?

Then go ahead and discuss the subject in this thread ... IF it's really BREAKING news.

What would be the proper subgoup for a minuteman thread if there's nothing breaking about them on the news wires?

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Probably the "Gun Rights and Security Issues" forum.

I live in Tucson - my husband was raised in Douglas - and the minutemen are a joke to the locals. They're a bunch of morons who move into a place where they don't know the locals, and start causing trouble to get publicity. Nobody takes them seriously

Yes, there is a border issue - the huge amounts of money states end up spending on a federal problem. The minutemen are about as useful as any other self proclaimed saviors.

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And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it." --George W. Bush, Jan. 29, 2007