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jviehe · #31 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Steve

Sorry, but the assertion was made by the OP that liberals were trying to silence speech they didn't agree with. Not an iota of evidence has been provided to back that up...

If you mean liberals in general then there is plenty evidence to go around as shown by the fairness doctrine. If you mean these specific liberals then I think it obvious that they want Limbaugh off and so are using the hurricane news as leverage. If you choose not to accept that, then so be it.

jviehe · #32 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

Does this station ( owned by Clear Channel Commo ) have a choice in which personalities fill their airtime? No, it does not.
Broward Co is roughly 2-to-1 Dem-to-Rep., so popularity in this county is questionable.
Listening to Limbaugh et al must seem like having teeth pulled to any Democrat.
Syndicated Conservatives are on from 9am to 9pm. No one should be forced to listen to this much mind-numbing drivel just to catch the latest storm warnings.

I will repeat what I said earlier- these hurricane warnings should not be broadcast by a single source; every radio station should be putting these warnings out. There should be no one " official " source.

No one is forced, but its obvious the station is profitable if they can afford to syndicate Limbaugh. Clear Channel isnt a huge success because they put undesirable programs on the air. You are making a false assumption that democrats in Broward country are smart enough to listen to anything other than NPR. Which leaves thousands of republicans who listen to Limbaugh.

Americano · #33 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by jviehe

No one is forced, but its obvious the station is profitable if they can afford to syndicate Limbaugh. Clear Channel isnt a huge success because they put undesirable programs on the air. You are making a false assumption that democrats in Broward country are smart enough to listen to anything other than NPR. Which leaves thousands of republicans who listen to Limbaugh.

Broward County voted 66% Democrat and 34% Republican in the 2004 election. Considering the plunge in popularity of current administration over the past few years I'd think the Limbaugh circus has also declined in popularity to a point where media advertising demographics are projecting more lost audience by merely running his show in a heavily democratic area than retention of the declining Limbaugh audience share is worth.

Mrs. M · #34 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Americano

Broward County voted 66% Democrat and 34% Republican in the 2004 election. Considering the plunge in popularity of current administration over the past few years I'd think the Limbaugh circus has also declined in popularity to a point where media advertising demographics are projecting more lost audience by merely running his show in a heavily democratic area than retention of the declining Limbaugh audience share is worth.

Then the Democrats should sit back and let the market handle this. If listeners are in a decline, the station will eventually be forced to remove the show. In the meantime, since the station has agreed to focus their emergency broadcast on Broward County and their signal is the strongest, the Democrats need to do what's best for Broward County. It's not a case of anyone being forced to listen to Limbaugh for updates as Lazarus said, because other stations also carry them so one can tune to them.

Americano · #35 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Then the Democrats should sit back and let the market handle this. If listeners are in a decline, the station will eventually be forced to remove the show. In the meantime, since the station has agreed to focus their emergency broadcast on Broward County and their signal is the strongest, the Democrats need to do what's best for Broward County. It's not a case of anyone being forced to listen to Limbaugh for updates as Lazarus said, because other stations also carry them so one can tune to them.

Doing what's best for the public is not the priority in any private entity business plan I'm familiar with and the same holds true for any political group, especially at local levels. The 'good old boys' club always holds power in any local setting and their political labels are interchangeable depending on who holds the majority. That filters all the way down to de facto party control over local advertisers who support radio stations. Just carrying a syndicated program not blessed by the powers that be is enough to lose substantial advertising revenue or an exclusive emergency broadcasting right. Nothing new; just a reaffirmation of power.

Mrs. M · #36 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Americano

Doing what's best for the public is not the priority in any private entity business plan I'm familiar with and the same holds true for any political group, especially at local levels. The 'good old boys' club always holds power in any local setting and their political labels are interchangeable depending on who holds the majority. That filters all the way down to de facto party control over local advertisers who support radio stations. Just carrying a syndicated program not blessed by the powers that be is enough to lose substantial advertising revenue or an exclusive emergency broadcasting right. Nothing new; just a reaffirmation of power.

Living in a hurricane-prone area, I want the station with the strongest signal to broadcast warnings, regardless of the political makeup of that station. I don't want partisan politics to endanger me over something so petty. The fact that this station agreed to focus on Broward County is also a major factor to consider. During Katrina, WWL-radio, the official station and the only one on the air for awhile, focused heavily on New Orleans so news within my town was scarce. After a few days of no information, our Parish President commandeered a station within my parish but it was much weaker than WWL. With my family scattered from Texas to Florida, they couldn't pick up the local news but were able to pick up WWL at night and get a general idea of what was happening.
That the Democrats in Broward County want to change to a weaker station means one of two things, either they have shit for brains or they just don't care what's best for their community.

Americano · #37 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Living in a hurricane-prone area, I want the station with the strongest signal to broadcast warnings, regardless of the political makeup of that station. I don't want partisan politics to endanger me over something so petty. The fact that this station agreed to focus on Broward County is also a major factor to consider. During Katrina, WWL-radio, the official station and the only one on the air for awhile, focused heavily on New Orleans so news within my town was scarce. After a few days of no information, our Parish President commandeered a station within my parish but it was much weaker than WWL. With my family scattered from Texas to Florida, they couldn't pick up the local news but were able to pick up WWL at night and get a general idea of what was happening.
That the Democrats in Broward County want to change to a weaker station means one of two things, either they have shit for brains or they just don't care what's best for their community.

You missed my point; no politician cares what's good for a community unless it benefits them. Stop relying on their fickle ways by providing your family with your geographical latitude and longitude (have somebody stand on your front porch with a GPS unit or use a car with a navigation system in front of your dwelling) and they can use modern PCs to get accurate weather info including all emergency information without relying on antiquated radio station broadcasting signal strength. They'll actually be ahead of the game as FEMA and other emergency systems use that source before recomposing and passing it on to radio/TV stations.

You more than likely have a private weather station in your vicinity that feeds into the national network for actual current conditions and all you or your family would need is the IP address to follow that source. That's where most local radio and TV stations get their 'current conditions' for the talking heads to broadcast.

Mrs. M · #38 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Americano

You missed my point; no politician cares what's good for a community unless it benefits them. Stop relying on their fickle ways by providing your family with your geographical latitude and longitude (have somebody stand on your front porch with a GPS unit or use a car with a navigation system in front of your dwelling) and they can use modern PCs to get accurate weather info including all emergency information without relying on antiquated radio station broadcasting signal strength. They'll actually be ahead of the game as FEMA and other emergency systems use that source before recomposing and passing it on to radio/TV stations.

You more than likely have a private weather station in your vicinity that feeds into the national network for actual current conditions and all you or your family would need is the IP address to follow that source. That's where most local radio and TV stations get their 'current conditions' for the talking heads to broadcast.

Sometimes we want more than just weather information though. After Katrina passed, we wanted to know where we could travel in the community, where we could get ice, etc. and you can only get that from local sources. Hell, I've got a weather radio but once the storm's gone, I need more information than they supply.

pramjockey · #39 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

That's easy, Mrs. M. You get ice at the 7-Eleven and food at the grocery store. Water comes from the tap.

You need a radio station for this?

Mrs. M · #40 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by pramjockey

That's easy, Mrs. M. You get ice at the 7-Eleven and food at the grocery store. Water comes from the tap.

You need a radio station for this?

LOL Smartass! We were 13 days without electricity at my house and had to drive about 90 miles roundtrip for gas and ice for the first few days! The National Guard began handing out MRE's and ice but we still had to make the trip for gasoline. Wal-Mart finally opened here but we had to get in line by about 5 a.m. or else they ran out of gas. It really wasn't a fun time! It would've been worse if Parish President Kevin Davis not acted on behalf of the community by getting the info to us.

Steve · #41 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by jviehe

If you mean these specific liberals then I think it obvious that they want Limbaugh off and so are using the hurricane news as leverage. If you choose not to accept that, then so be it.

I'm sure they (the County government) are not naive enough to think that if he's pulled from that one station, there won't be another ten lining up to get his show. Nor are they naive enough to think that the station in question is the only station in Broward County that is capable of broadcasting emergency information.

They may be trying to leverage Limbaugh's removal from that station, but to suggest that doing so equates to "silencing" him is idiotic. The guy never shuts up, and there will always be an outlet for him.

But, I guess the question that needs to be asked is this: Why should the government continue to provide information to a station which they have deep disagreements with? This seems, afterall, to be the position some would take, yet it makes about as much sense as the argument that the County government is trying to "silence" Limbaugh.

If you choose not to accept that, then so be it...

jviehe · #42 (**permalink**) 06-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Steve

But, I guess the question that needs to be asked is this: Why should the government continue to provide information to a station which they have deep disagreements with?

Or rather, why shouldnt they? Is someone not entitled to the govt services because they have a differing opinion? Again, the radio station is a business. They do not endorse Limbaugh. They syndicate his show because it makes them money. If the Dems had anyone worth listening to, the radio station would put them on.

Steve · #43 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007

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Originally Posted by jviehe

Or rather, why shouldnt they? Is someone not entitled to the govt services because they have a differing opinion? Again, the radio station is a business. They do not endorse Limbaugh. They syndicate his show because it makes them money. If the Dems had anyone worth listening to, the radio station would put them on.

You've not answered my question, though.

If radio stations were concerned with only money, Air America would carry Sean Hannity and Michael Savage.

Again, the point is that some believe that the Democrats are trying to "silence" Limbaugh.

Not an iota of proof has been provided to back that up...

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