That's a canard. Apparently, anyone who disagrees with your views isn't applying critical thinking. Boiled down, that is basically the argument that if you agree with me, you're smart, if you disagree, you're dumb, and I shouldn't consider your position because you're dumb.

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Why are you making this about attacks? I can see by your posts that you take any differing opinion as a personal attack. My goal here is not to pick a fight, it is merely to have an open EXCHANGE of ideas. Dismissing ideas without putting any thought into the issue is not a the type of dialogue that should be used in a forum such as this. You are displaying the type of juvinile behavior we have come to loath in politicians. I will not put consideration into thoughts like "buss those illegals back to their own country" or my favorite "I'll pay a few more cents for avacados" which by the way was a splendid use of subtle bigotry. I have respect for those who respect others.

Sealing the borders would cost the public far more than merely avoiding the existing social burden for illegals when lost industry tax revenue, economic multipliers, increased trade deficits, currency devaluation and goodwill are factored in. That doesn't even consider the border sealing/maintenance costs or humanitarian issues.

It's actually a simple problem. The US desperately needs low cost labor now and even more so over the next decade while Central and S. American countries have a large surplus of low cost labor eager to rise above its below subsistence life. With border state emotional sentiment and thinly disguised racial prejudice at a peak, politicians are avoiding the issue. As usual, that misplaced emotion will cost the US dearly.

Then a guest worker program should be enacted. Humanitarian issues? goodwill? Do other countries just let anyone come in illegally and do what they want? Why does everyone think the US should? The borders have to be sealed and we have to know who is coming in here. Illegals are costing us a lot of money. In today paper they show how the mexican kids are crossing the border every day to go to california schools. There is now someone there taking pictures and giving them to the schools to show them why their schools are overcrowded and not enough tax money coming in. People who live in those districts have children getting bussed out of their district because there is not room for them. Do you think this is all fair for them? Just a few months ago I saw the same thing happening in El Paso. The kids walk over the border every day to attend american schools. No taxes are paid. They are costing us money in social services. How come an illegal can go to the hospital and not have to pay, but we have to? This is a lot more money than I can even imagine.I feel that I am actually pretty moderate on social issues, but there is a limit.

Get a load of this story from the state supreme court.

LegalNewsline | Idaho justices: Illegal immigrants entitled to medical assistance

Illegals don't get the Earned Income Tax Credit even tho many are below the poverty line, therefore they save us money overall.

Give the Republicans time and you won't have to worry about the issue because we'll be sneaking into Mexico to take their jobs.

Republicans do sometimes seem to want to offshore most of the US jobs worth having, but at least that's better than the Democrats, who sometimes seem to want to demolish All jobs. In any case, it will be quite a while before we're sneaking into Mexico - Probably the biggest drag on their economy is government corruption, and as bad as our two ruling parties are, we have a Long way to go before we have it as bad as our neighbors to the south.

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Today's forecast: Government corruption.

Tomorrow's forecast: 100% chance of more 'politics as usual'

Maybe it's finally time to vote Libertarian

The mordida in Mexico is just more open and filters down to the average citizen level. In the US it's self-contained at the political representation and bureaucratic levels, seldom spilling over into public knowledge.