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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_persecution_by_Christians - 88k Perhaps you will find this site more acceptable in respect to authenticity. |
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
You are probably correct, but I still see no problem with them holding prayer....It takes what? Maybe 1 minute at most. It's the other time spent in cession that makes me worry.
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
My argument was based on determination of rights. Your response must be interpreted in that context. If it is not to be interpreted in that context, then it is irrelevant to the point. If a minority, say people of african descent get the right to vote (which they now have but didn't at one point), then election outcomes can change thus affecting the majority by that outcome. That changing of electoral outcome constitutes influence on what would have been the previous majority, unless of course one assumes completely monolithic voting in the majority (As in they all vote exactly the same).
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By the way, change "by" to "of" in your url, and suddenly those monstrous Christians become a lot more sympathetic: Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, The persecution of Christians is religious persecution that Christians sometimes undergo as a consequence of professing their faith, ![]() I've no intention of claiming that bloody things haven't been done by Christians and in the name of Christianity. I was just expressing skepticism and a rather unverifiable and dubious source (generally speak, "viral" knowledge you find in email forwards and the like).
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
What if they spent 1 minute talking about this week's episode of Survivor? Does it matter what piece of irrelevant fluff is occurring?
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
A lot of slaves would have to say "yes, absolutely."
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
Slavery was not unconstitutional at that time.
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
Eyi yi yi yi yi yi yi yi
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Re: Iowa lawmakers offended by Islamic prayer
As I recall, the founders couldn't agree on that point. They had gone to all the trouble of drawing up a document that would preclude such barbarism, but half of them had constituents that would have been pretty pissed off if they had practiced what they preached. So, they tentatively wrote provisions in for slavery (to last 20 years or something, and then expire), opting instead to defer the matter and let their kids sort it out.
So, my original point stands. The founders absolutely wrote in something that they knew was against the spirit of the document they were writing (in fact, they even agreed on a piece of semantics - defining "three fifths" of a human - in order to gussy up their hypocrisy).
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But I get your point.
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That being said, when they actually get someone of a non-Abrahamic faith up there, Christians interrupt and say that only THEIR prayer should be in government! Ridiculous! See link: Three Christians disrupt Hindu prayer in U.S. Senate |
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Do you have a comment on democratic state legislature Ako Abdul-Samad’s “Death or convert to Islam prayer in the state legislature, or does your concern lay with the other state legislatures being Christian???
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well they did try and hamstring any furthering of the slavery practice etc...the 3/5ths rule and a provision for abolishment of slavery after said 20 years...in effect though, they compromised and kicked the can down the road..in light of having to present a united front and get the thing signed and approved, they had to do it...
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