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My personal theory is that God created the heavens and the earth in seven days....now, was that 7/24 hour days??? I don't know...to me, it seems possible that since the Bible tells us that one day is like a thousand years to God, evolution could have been part of His process. The important part to me is that whether through evolution or a wave of the hand, God created all things.
I have no problem with that at all. I do have a problem with it being taught in a science class or for it to be used to limit science.
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I have no problem with that at all. I do have a problem with it being taught in a science class or for it to be used to limit science.
Regardless of what a kid is taught in the classroom, if it goes against their spiritual beliefs, they'll reject it or find a way to intertwine it into their beliefs, just as I have.
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Re: Florida to teach evolution in science-theory catagory

Interesting, conscience entities arguing the existence of a conscience entity.
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Regardless of what a kid is taught in the classroom, if it goes against their spiritual beliefs, they'll reject it or find a way to intertwine it into their beliefs, just as I have.
That's okay. I would even have no problem with kids being able to opt out of that portion at the request of the parents. But to take it out of biology completely is a little much. It really is at the core of modern biology. It would be like leaving metals out of chemistry class.
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Interesting, conscience entities arguing the existence of a conscience entity.
We are discussion what should be taught in a science class. I have not offered anything about the existence or non-existence of any deity. If that is the discussion you want to have then maybe you should start a thread about that topic.
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Here you have to have three science classes and we had introduction to chemistry and physics, biology, chemistry, and psychics but the thing is that psychics was pretty difficult and advanced for high school so other than honor students students pretty much had to take biology.
I remember taking physics as a freshman, some kind of biology and chemistry courses, and then AP Physics (I think I also took an AP Chemistry test even though I didn't take AP Chemistry). I think our science minimum was 2 years (though I didn't pay attention) and our school offered a variety of alternatives to "mainstream" with things like Earth Science and other fluff-type classes.
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My personal theory is that God created the heavens and the earth in seven days....now, was that 7/24 hour days??? I don't know...to me, it seems possible that since the Bible tells us that one day is like a thousand years to God, evolution could have been part of His process. The important part to me is that whether through evolution or a wave of the hand, God created all things.
The story in Genesis could certainly justify days as "epochs" which would seem not to preclude evolutionary theory. But, the involvement or lack thereof of God is, by definition, not a scientific question or concern.
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I remember taking physics as a freshman, some kind of biology and chemistry courses, and then AP Physics (I think I also took an AP Chemistry test even though I didn't take AP Chemistry). I think our science minimum was 2 years (though I didn't pay attention) and our school offered a variety of alternatives to "mainstream" with things like Earth Science and other fluff-type classes.
Looking back I really wish I had taken psychics but at the time I just wanted things to be easy. I was a lazy student until I got to college. In college I did make the mistake of taking geology because of scheduling issues. Memorizing the names of rocks isn't too stimulating in my opinion. There are things we learned in there though that would probably upset people just as much as evolution such as the age and formation of the earth. I guess it just doesn't get as much attention because it isn't taught before college in general.
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Looking back I really wish I had taken psychics but at the time I just wanted things to be easy. I was a lazy student until I got to college. In college I did make the mistake of taking geology because of scheduling issues. Memorizing the names of rocks isn't too stimulating in my opinion. There are things we learned in there though that would probably upset people just as much as evolution such as the age and formation of the earth. I guess it just doesn't get as much attention because it isn't taught before college in general.
It's interesting that you bring up geology. From what I remember geology and evolution sort of got intertwined in the debate that started in geology with gradual versus catyclismic geological change camps battling for scientific concensus. As the gradual change camp of geology grew in acceptance, it kind of dragged ideas of evolutionary or species change along with it. They certainly are both "hostile" to the Young Earth crowd for the same reasons.
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Evolution is such a central part of biology that the whole course would really need to be removed since so much would have to be avoided or left out anyway. What happens when the class asks questions that venture into that realm? The teacher should just say "we are not allowed to go into that part"?
The creationists would like the teacher to answer those questions by pretending that evolution and creationism are equally valid scientific explanations.
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We weren't taught evolution either. It may have been in the science books but it was never taught. (Remember, I'm 47 and grew up in the Deep South!!)
I was taught nothing but evolution in school. In cathecism, I was taught evolution. As it should be (but I never bought creationism in it's literal sense.) Guess it isn't just Ajax who generalizes about regions of the country.
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I was taught nothing but evolution in school. In cathecism, I was taught evolution. As it should be (but I never bought creationism in it's literal sense.) Guess it isn't just Ajax who generalizes about regions of the country.
Big deal. Where you went to school, they taught it. Where I went to school, they didn't. What's with all your smartass comments in threads that I've posted in?
Whether you bought into creationism doesn't really matter to me since I respect the beliefs or lack of, of others. In other words, I don't down anyone for their spiritual beliefs.
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Big deal. Where you went to school, they taught it. Where I went to school, they didn't. What's with all your smartass comments in threads that I've posted in?
Whether you bought into creationism doesn't really matter to me since I respect the beliefs or lack of, of others. In other words, I don't down anyone for their spiritual beliefs.
Smartass? I'm pointing out some similarities between your and Ajax's generalizations. Touched a nerve, there?

Also, there is not much to dispute about evolution. It's science - mutations, adapatations, DNA adapatatoins, etc. That's science. Faith is different. So, if you choose to be defensive about it, so be it
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Smartass? I'm pointing out some similarities between your and Ajax's generalizations. Touched a nerve, there?

Also, there is not much to dispute about evolution. It's science - mutations, adapatations, DNA adapatatoins, etc. That's science. Faith is different. So, if you choose to be defensive about it, so be it
No, hon. No nerve...as a matter of fact, I find it hilarious that you're so pissed off that you're digging up threads and using month old quotes to make a fool of yourself.
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No, hon. No nerve...as a matter of fact, I find it hilarious that you're so pissed off that you're digging up threads and using month old quotes to make a fool of yourself.
No, the fool here is one who has lacks interest in threads - or maybe slow reading skills. Wait a minute...what thread are you atlking about? It wasn't mentioned here.
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