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Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
With energy costs skyrocketing the price of gas in my community just hitting $6.75 for unleaded, home heating fuel at $6.50. Alaska Governor Sarah Palin(R) is proposing serious energy cost relief to Alaskans. Under her proposal, nearly a half a billion dollars would be used to offset electric costs for Alaskans. That money will largely be spent on the utility company/ co'ops level to offset the price of diesel used to generate power.
The more interesting proposal is the debit card for fuel system. Which would give Alaskans a debit card more or less, that could only be used to purchase fuel. Recipients would be based on those eligible to get the Permanent Fund Dividend. adn.com | Alaska Politics : Palin energy plan: Grants to utilities and energy debit cards. Quote:
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
The energy situation is going to become far worse before any improvement is realized. Wouldn't the prudent direction be investing surplus funds to generate revenue for future contingencies instead of spending them now? Or is this simply a political gesture?
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
Energy welfare has been popular among Alaskans?
![]() The shock! This is not a long-term solution. It's unfortunate that the Alaskan people can't recognize that.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
Alaskans are no different than most Americans in that their demands for immediate gratification allow politicians to spend more public money to retain their popularity.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
Well, of course. I didn't mean to imply that Alaskans were behaving differently than other Americans would.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
You didn't.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
This goes back to the resources of the state belonging to the residents, not necessarily the government. But in terms of past energy relief there hasnt really been much. In rural Alaska there is the PCE(power cost equalization) system which brings the cost of electricty to the residential consumer in rural Alaska in line with the most expensive road belt communities.
Right now my base rate for a KwH is .44 cents or so. Compared to probably less than a dime for most places in the lower 48 and 25 cents roughly for the road system. So without some serious relief, communities would literally die in rural Alaska. In fact it is already happening. I am not joking when I say that if I have to buy diesel to run my boat this summer at $6+, it would be cheaper for me not to fish. That is a tragedy. This is not a long-term solution. It's unfortunate that the Alaskan people can't recognize that.[/quote] Its unfortunate that you underestimate the intelligence of Alaskans. We know it cant be sustained. We are among the leaders in America when it comes to transitioning to alternative energy due to the high costs that have plagued areas of the state. I am hearing everyone bitch about $4 a gallon, when in my community we have been paying over $4 a gallon since 2005. The Governor has recognized that alternative energy is important, but immediate relief has become critical.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
But why should energy prices in rural Alaska be on par with urban areas? Why should that price be subsidized (ultimately by me)?
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Bout 40billion in there last time I checked. Plus our standard state treasury. Which had from this year alone 8billion in surplus. This 1.2b would mean 6.8billion still being saved. Alaska leads the way in long term savings for the time when oil production can no longer sustain the state. Quote:
But Alaska is a very red state by and large. We by constitutional mandate save much more than any other state as I mentioned before. I think you are not understanding the crisis that is caused by having a compact car cost $75 to fill up. My toyota pickup truck costs over 100 bucks. But one can simply drive less. What is killing everyone is the price of diesel. Which is used to heat our homes, power our fishing boats, and generating our electricty. Right now it will cost me $2000 to fill my home fuel tank. That wont last 2 months in the winter. 6 weeks tops. Plus it is going to cost me nearly $5000 a fill up for the FV Bunz Baby. That is nearly 10thousand pounds worth of salmon. Every 5 days. Just to cover fuel. I am not sure I am going to fish this summer, for the first time since I started in 1996.
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If the power wasnt somehow cheaper, it would become economically impractical to continue to live there. It has reached that tipping point for thousands of Alaskans already who have left for more urban locations like Anchorage and Fairbanks. Just curious PJ, how much are you paying for gas at the pump? a KwH? your monthly heating bill which I will assume is natual gas? Lets have a little comparison here. For the record, I know up front that life in the bush is more expensive. I am happy to pay the extra is takes to have the life I enjoy. I have been doing it for over a decade. There is a line that was crossed though that will effectively put the final nail in a lot of community coffins. Without some sort of relief, from the resources Alaskans own already, the urban areas will be ill-prepared for the migration from the bush to the cities.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
Still, the State of Alaska has to be getting the money to subsidize energy from somewhere. Ultimately, I suspect that I'm paying for it via higher energy prices.
I'm not trying to be unduly callous, but why should I care if it is no longer economically feasible to live above the arctic circle where the only transportation is air or boat? Subsidizing petroleum so that people can choose to live on the absolute edge doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
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But much of the industry we are talking about, that is critical to the American economy is in the rural areas. So, if let rural Alaskan effectively die off, it will also have very harmful effects on the production of oil/gas, zinc and lead, other metal ores, sea food and timber. If you can trust me on one thing, trust me that a healthy rural Alaska is much better for America.
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Re: Coolest Governor Ever pt2... $6.75 @ pump
If America depends on these resources, then it seems to me that the market should bear the cost for extracting them. I still fail to see how subsidizing oil helps in the long run.
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