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Arnold Schwarzenegger basically signed the pedophile protection act.

I am no longer surprised by what the left does.I am sure if that man got the republican presidential primary nomination I am sure the die hard republicans would vote for him like they would vote for McCain.(yes I know Schwarzenegger can not run for president)


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California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill that drastically reduces requirements for mandatory reporting of the known or suspected sexual, physical and emotional abuse of children.

Opponents, who are urging constituents to contact the governor, also say it creates a loophole for abortion providers, such as Planned Parenthood, to be exempted from reporting statutory rape, molestation and sexual abuse and gives molesters greater opportunity to be involved with the care giving of children.

Under existing criminal law, anyone who regularly comes into contact with children is required to report an instance in which there is reason to believe a child has been molested or abused, Ackerman points out.

Typical mandatory reporters include pastors, priests, church volunteers, teachers, school volunteers, and medical personnel.

But the new law eliminates mandatory reporting for anyone who can be characterized as a "volunteer."
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger basically signed the pedophile protection act.

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Typical mandatory reporters include pastors, priests, church volunteers, teachers, school volunteers, and medical personnel.

But the new law eliminates mandatory reporting for anyone who can be characterized as a "volunteer."
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger basically signed the pedophile protection act.

Schwarzenegger is a Republican. He's hardly on the left.


And, removing a duty to act from unpaid volunteers is not uncommon.
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Schwarzenegger is a Republican. He's hardly on the left.
Having a "R" next to one's name does not automatically make somoene a conservative or even a right winger.Schwarzenegger is a liberal,therefore he is on the left.
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I am no longer surprised by what the left does.I am sure if that man got the republican presidential primary nomination I am sure the die hard republicans would vote for him like they would vote for McCain.(yes I know Schwarzenegger can not run for president)


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"The Pedophile Protection Act"
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a bill that drastically reduces requirements for mandatory reporting of the known or suspected sexual, physical and emotional abuse of children.

Opponents, who are urging constituents to contact the governor, also say it creates a loophole for abortion providers, such as Planned Parenthood, to be exempted from reporting statutory rape, molestation and sexual abuse and gives molesters greater opportunity to be involved with the care giving of children.

Under existing criminal law, anyone who regularly comes into contact with children is required to report an instance in which there is reason to believe a child has been molested or abused, Ackerman points out.

Typical mandatory reporters include pastors, priests, church volunteers, teachers, school volunteers, and medical personnel.

But the new law eliminates mandatory reporting for anyone who can be characterized as a "volunteer."
"Uund dis laww will prodect pedophiles efrewhere, in ahour skoolyahds ahour streets uund ahour homes." Ah-nold came right out and said that, right?

WHY did the law exempt volunteers? maybe there was, I don't know...a GOOD REASON for doing it?
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WHY did the law exempt volunteers? maybe there was, I don't know...a GOOD REASON for doing it?
I'm not sure where I stand on this, but I have to ask what this good reason was?
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I'm not sure where I stand on this, but I have to ask what this good reason was?
Off of the top of my head, being, perhaps, criminally liable for not reporting in an instance when the volunteer wasn't sure might discourage volunteering. If I were contemplating helping out at the local community center, and I knew that I might be charged with a crime if a kid was acting strange or withdrawn, I would certainly be dissuaded from volunteering. Because while I might be saving a child from abuse, I might also be needlessly meddling and required to do so by law.

Now, I don't know what the repercussions are for not reporting as a volunteer - I'm just speculating.
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Schwarzenegger is a Republican. He's hardly on the left.

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you have not the slightest idea of what you are talking about, as I don't have an idea other than party label as to how your governor legislates or behaves so lets just leave it at that.

Hes a rhino, he was before he got elected and has behaved as I thought he would afterwards, as it is now obvious for those who live here in the state. .
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"Uund dis laww will prodect pedophiles efrewhere, in ahour skoolyahds ahour streets uund ahour homes." Ah-nold came right out and said that, right?

WHY did the law exempt volunteers? maybe there was, I don't know...a GOOD REASON for doing it?
such as?
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you have not the slightest idea of what you are talking about, as I don't have an idea other than party label as to how your governor legislates or behaves so lets just leave it at that.

Hes a rhino, he was before he got elected and has behaved as I thought he would afterwards, as it is now obvious for those who live here in the state. .


YOU accusing anyone of not knowing what they're talking about is asinine to the highest degree.

Here's just one example:
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"Schwarzenegger is a Republican. He's hardly on the left."


YOU accusing anyone of not knowing what they're talking about is asinine to the highest degree.

Here's just one example:
California Radio Hosts Could Determine Gubernatorial Race
Your comment and I'll make it clear enough for you this time is, lunatic and wholly misinformed...

and what does that link have to do with his governance, the budget, gay marriage, education, environment, law enforcement etc...You know the way he GOVERNS??? Bills vetoed, not vetoed, issues spptted NOT spptted…

let me make this even simpler for you, , I live here, I hear it see it on a monthly basis, I live with it effect(s) etc. he governs from the left, but now, your an expert, by virtue of the mad cap 2 minute Google education.

I gotta say, I hope these aren't principals you apply in the classroom.

the link in fact contradicts you ala-


Already many of the state's top local hosts have raised questions about Arnold Schwarzenegger's conservative credentials. Some of the most influential hosts have been supporting State Senator Tom McClintock, a well-known Reaganite.

This fear has been proven out and realized. I actively campaigned for mclintock, gave him every dime I was allowed to, to no avail, thats life. Hopefully he'll run again, when the dilettante lefty jets back to Hollywood after of course leaving us a budget deficit twice what his recalled predecessor did.
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger basically signed the pedophile protection act.

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I'm not sure where I stand on this, but I have to ask what this good reason was?
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Off of the top of my head, being, perhaps, criminally liable for not reporting in an instance when the volunteer wasn't sure might discourage volunteering. If I were contemplating helping out at the local community center, and I knew that I might be charged with a crime if a kid was acting strange or withdrawn, I would certainly be dissuaded from volunteering. Because while I might be saving a child from abuse, I might also be needlessly meddling and required to do so by law.

Now, I don't know what the repercussions are for not reporting as a volunteer - I'm just speculating.
Or, it could be that this law duplicates Federal legislation that's been in place for years, AFAIK, and that has specific liability safeguards which prevent reporters from being sued?

It's never good practice to duplicate laws at more than one govt level, because a good lawyer can use this to obfuscate the issue and get his client acquited sometimes. Legislators, OTOH, just love to pass laws against anything that's already illegal. It's really hard to go wrong saying you don't like child molestors or think bank robbers are bad.
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Your comment and I'll make it clear enough for you this time is, lunatic and wholly misinformed...

and what does that link have to do with his governance, the budget, gay marriage, education, environment, law enforcement etc...You know the way he GOVERNS??? Bills vetoed, not vetoed, issues spptted NOT spptted…

let me make this even simpler for you, , I live here, I hear it see it on a monthly basis, I live with it effect(s) etc. he governs from the left, but now, your an expert, by virtue of the mad cap 2 minute Google education.

I gotta say, I hope these aren't principals you apply in the classroom.

the link in fact contradicts you ala-


Already many of the state's top local hosts have raised questions about Arnold Schwarzenegger's conservative credentials. Some of the most influential hosts have been supporting State Senator Tom McClintock, a well-known Reaganite.

This fear has been proven out and realized. I actively campaigned for mclintock, gave him every dime I was allowed to, to no avail, thats life. Hopefully he'll run again, when the dilettante lefty jets back to Hollywood after of course leaving us a budget deficit twice what his recalled predecessor did.
Arnold takes a jet from Sacramento ot LA?? This is California, people COMMUTE from Sacramento to LA.

Then again, it might be one of those cooking oil Lears.
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