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Old 05-20-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

The voters have been saying, "STOP" for a long time.

That's partly what the 'Contract with America' was all about.

But our political heroes -- the Rs and Ds both -- prove every year how little they care. Nothing will change until the voters grow up and get serious about politics.

Still at least a decade away, I'd bet.
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Old 05-20-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

At what point do Tax payers say stop---....we just did in California.

Time to watch the dance start. IF obama bails them out, this country is will be ala the new deal change in ways we don’t want to explore. Obama is already using many of FDR’s old bullshit ploys and politics, and its wearing then. Things happen quicker now a days and he will be here when the shit hits the fan

Cali. Is the future of the country writ small……the great liberal entitlement binge and philosophy of free shit for everyone has finally hit the wall. To late, but none the less.
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Old 05-20-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

It might just wait until people's taxes are actually RAISED.

This is what gets to me, with all this bs about 'tea parties' Obama has actually POSTPONED the tax raises he was talking about in the campaign. All the poor wittle richies get to keep ALL the money they've been stealing from us for at least two more years. Plenty of time for all of them to patriotically sock it off to the Barbados

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No they really don't have to have a job to buy gas. They don't need jobs to get a lot of things. Tats, 9 inch nails, cell phones, cannabis, cocaine, methamphetamine, XTC.....I could go on.

Having disposable income is always there in a underground economy and most people just haven't been in a place to see it. But it IS there.
"Where will they get the money? somewhere..." gee, that sounds familiar, anyone remember who said that?

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But there's still a failure rate of 20%.

That's huge...
uh...no, it's not. Failure rates for new businesses are 33%. Failure rates for new hires in general vary so widely over businesses that any figure there would be meaningless, but it can go as high as 40% for exec level positions.

It there's bus service to your door then no, even I don't favor this. But if you live 40 miles outside of the city (and despite most of the widely believed stereotypes in here the majority of poor people are rural) well, how in the fuck are are you even to supposed to LOOK for a job, let alone keep one w/o a car?

Typical conservative thinking though. Any Welfare program must work PERFECTLY, or it just illustrates the failure of the whole concept. Precisely the same reasoning as with gun control.

But for WAR, shit, you can fail miserably for five years. If, after all this time even your own ALLIES get fed up and kick you out, well, hell, that's a rousing success.
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Old 05-20-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

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It might just wait until people's taxes are actually RAISED.
Why do we have to wait for taxes to be raised? Can't we just say stop spending money we don't have? Can't we just say stop adding refundable tax credits?

If we stopped the deficit spending, and stopped all refundable tax credits, I would guess that we would have more money to spend at home soon. Once the trillions in debt is paid off of course, which will never happen if we keep giving the tax credits and charging our budget on the Chinese Visa.
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Old 06-23-2009
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Gov. Deval Patrick’s free wheels for welfare recipients program is revving up despite the stalled economy, as the keys to donated cars loaded with state-funded insurance, repairs and even AAA membership are handed out to get them to work. But if they "loose" the job, don't worry just keep the car and the perks. And I guess they will need a gas card too.

I thought the government was pushing mass transit, to save the world.


Free cars for poor fuel road rage - BostonHerald.com
Actually this would be a good idea if the gov required them to get a job once they have recieved the car. I wonder how many of those lay-abouts would line up for that free car if there was worked involved.
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Old 06-25-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

I think it would be more logical if they leased them the cars.

Make it conditional, they must get another job within 30-45 days or turn them back in.

Of course, maybe this is why he is proposing increasing the states gasoline tax by 19 cents.

Transportation chief foresees MBTA fare increases - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe

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Old 06-25-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

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Have you actually been in public housing? It's not exactly a 3-story mansion with an an indoor pool and free maid service.
So what? Its still better than the housing in which much of the human race lives. Besides, its being paid for by tax dollars. Its free to the freeloader living in it. Why the fuck should it be luxurious? The point is to put a roof over their head - NOT to give them a place to stay forever.
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Maybe free cars are taking it too far, but if it's getting 80% of the people in the program off welfare, then it must be a good idea.
MAYBE?!?!?!?!?!?!? Are you fucking serious? MAYBE!?!?!?!?
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I also agree with the other guy in saying that if that person loses the job, they should be required to give back the car, unless there are extenuating circumstances (such as a downsizing) that got that person fired.
Tell me again why I should pay for not only my own car but someone elses? Seriously - i want to know the thought process which brings you to this conclusion.
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Old 06-25-2009
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All the poor wittle richies get to keep ALL the money they've been stealing from us for at least two more years.
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

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. All the poor wittle richies get to keep ALL the money they've been stealing from us for at least two more years. Plenty of time for all of them to patriotically sock it off to the Barbados
You do realize many of those "poor wittle richies" are middle and upper middle class people who work their ass off, don't you?

Are you just jealous that others have been financially successful in their lives while you've remained a loser?
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Old 06-25-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

Mass voters were given a chance to repeal the state income tax this past November, they bought the lies and didn't vote it out.

Since they smelled weakness the tax bandits have been raising every tax and fee they can think of since.
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Old 06-25-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

As a tax payer, I say stop now.

Where does this hatred of wealthy people come from? I don't get it. Jealousy may account for some of it, but I think it goes much deeper.

For the record, I am not rich, I'm just your everyday, average, hard workin' American tradesman.

What gives anyone the right to take money away from one person, at the point of a gun, and give it to another person who hasn't earned it?
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Old 06-25-2009
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Re: At what point do Tax payers say stop

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As a tax payer, I say stop now.

Where does this hatred of wealthy people come from? I don't get it. Jealousy may account for some of it, but I think it goes much deeper.

For the record, I am not rich, I'm just your everyday, average, hard workin' American tradesman.

What gives anyone the right to take money away from one person, at the point of a gun, and give it to another person who hasn't earned it?
Your an American. That means that you personally did something terrible to someone.

It was probably just crying instead of dying when the doctor smacked your bottom after you were born, but there is no disputing your guilt.
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