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jet57 · #16 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Imperator

You have got to be effing kidding me....if I underestimate my cali tax by more than 5%, that is I add extra exemptions and at the end of the year I owe more than 5% of the estimated tax, I get hit with a fine....BUT they now have decided to take an extra 10% for my state taxes from my check and I will see it back when I file in 2010..... this is highway robbery, I cannot believe this is even legal absent a ratified tax increase.

Talk about regressive, where are the libs in the Cali leg. now?

California to withhold a bigger chunk of paychecks

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners — holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.

Technically, it’s not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers’ annual tax bills won’t change.

Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You’ll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.

But with rising gas costs, depressed home prices and double-digit unemployment, the state’s added reach into residents’ regular paycheck isn’t sitting well with many.

California to withhold a bigger chunk of paychecks -- latimes.com

What we put up with in the state never ceases to amaze me. They're really tightening up our tax laws to squeeze blood from a stone. You ought to take a look at what's goning on the UC system over this.

Thanks for bringing up the subject.

chassisman · #17 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by jet57

What we put up with in the state never ceases to amaze me. They're really tightening up our tax laws to squeeze blood from a stone. You ought to take a look at what's goning on the UC system over this.

Thanks for bringing up the subject.

It amazes me as well.

Swoop187 · #18 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Steve

No shit.

Illinois has a higher percentage of libs than California does...

SO, both states are in similar situations.

The key word is "LIBERAL" NOT Illinois or California.

Connect the fucking dots.

California bankrupt shit hole, liberal run.

Illinois verge of bankrupt shit hole, liberal run.

Don't worry, I hate Illinois just as much as shitty California.

Swoop187 · #19 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by danielpalos

I think we should legalize drugs and create a recreational drug category. We can achieve much the same amount in more market friendly sales taxes.

That's never going to happen.

The government has a lot invested in their war against drugs. They aren't going to just "legalize" drugs and end up looking like hypocrites.

Furthermore the government brings in epic amounts of revenue because of drugs.

Drugs are crime and crime pays off handsomely for the government. Crime is its own industry, they wont legalize dope, never going to happen.

This is one of those issues that prove the government isn't looking out for the peoples best interests. This country would be a lot safer if drugs were legalized because it would take the sales out of the hands of the gangbangers and criminals, but they aren't interested in that because the government makes more money off these criminals then they would via any sort of tax revenue from drugs.

AjaxPress · #20 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

This is the kind of theft we have always had to deal with when Republicans are in charge. Once we vote out the Republicans then things will finally change.

Marcus1124 · #21 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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AjaxPress
This is the kind of theft we have always had to deal with when Republicans are in charge. Once we vote out the Republicans then things will finally change.

Well, given the balance of power in the state of California, that has to be in the running for the most stupid thing I've seen posted in a while.

Imperator · #22 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by jet57

What we put up with in the state never ceases to amaze me. They're really tightening up our tax laws to squeeze blood from a stone. You ought to take a look at what's goning on the UC system over this.

Thanks for bringing up the subject.

I am uhm, connected to the UC system....I around it, not IN it thank god.

AjaxPress · #23 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Marcus1124

Well, given the balance of power in the state of California, that has to be in the running for the most stupid thing I've seen posted in a while.

Speaking of stupid things said, is the governor who signed off on this a Republican or a Democrat? Answer the question.

Is the California State Supreme Court dominated by Democrats or Republicans? Answer the question.

Tanngrisnir3 · #24 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Swoop187

SO, both states are in similar situations.

The key word is "LIBERAL" NOT Illinois or California.

Connect the fucking dots.

California bankrupt shit hole, liberal run.

Illinois verge of bankrupt shit hole, liberal run.

Don't worry, I hate Illinois just as much as shitty California.

Again: which liberals, and in which positions?

Please understand that the above is a rhetorical question, as I already know you don't know the answer.

Imperator · #25 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by AjaxPress

This is the kind of theft we have always had to deal with when Republicans are in charge. Once we vote out the Republicans then things will finally change.

I have to weigh in here too- we have a MAJOR RHINO as gov. ,we have a dem leg. and thankfully we have just enough republican legs. to keep the dems from having a 2/3's edge which would allow them to raise taxes every darn time they choose, which has been tried several times in the last 14 months especially of pain.

turnitup5000db · #26 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by AjaxPress

This is the kind of theft we have always had to deal with when Republicans are in charge. Once we vote out the Republicans then things will finally change.

Really?... I mean... REALLY? What kind of mental contortions did you have to go through to get that out of your mouth?

The (D) to (R) ratio is 49 to 29 in the Assembly with 1 independent and 1 vacancy, and 25 to 15 in the Senate. Even assuming Ahnold was inclined to veto something they passed (and he rarely is as far as I can tell), they have enough votes to override his veto if they can pick off one or two Republicans in the Senate. California's Democratic leadership have more than enough power to do whatever the hell they want, more or less.

turnitup5000db · #27 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by AjaxPress

Speaking of stupid things said, is the governor who signed off on this a Republican or a Democrat? Answer the question.

Is the California State Supreme Court dominated by Democrats or Republicans? Answer the question.

Yeah. The governor signed off on it. Guess which side came up with and put foreword the idea? Go on. Guess.

And as for the court, they aren't even involved. The composition of the SCOTSOC is irrelevant in this discussion.

Christ. Republicans didn't stop the Democrats from doing something stupid, so of course it's all their fault.

AjaxPress · #28 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by turnitup5000db

Really?... I mean... REALLY? What kind of mental contortions did you have to go through to get that out of your mouth?

The (D) to (R) ratio is 49 to 29 in the Assembly with 1 independent and 1 vacancy, and 25 to 15 in the Senate. Even assuming Ahnold was inclined to veto something they passed (and he rarely is), they have enough votes to override his veto if they can pick off one or two Republicans in the Senate. California's Democratic leadership have more than enough power to do whatever the hell they want, more or less.

So what you're saying is that Republicans are cowards who can't be bothered to even try and resist. Thanks. I always knew it but it's good to see my p.o.v. reaffirmed by righties.

AjaxPress · #29 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by turnitup5000db

Yeah. The governor signed off on it. Guess which side came up with and put foreword the idea? Go on. Guess.

And as for the court, they aren't even involved. The composition of the SCOTSOC is irrelevant in this discussion.

Republicans can't challenge these laws? Oh right you've already indirectly acknowledged that Republicans are cowards, so I'm not surprised that you'd indirectly acknowledge that Republicans are lazy too.

turnitup5000db · #30 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by AjaxPress

So what you're saying is that Republicans are cowards who can't be bothered to even try and resist. Thanks. I always knew it but it's good to see my p.o.v. reaffirmed by righties.

So your P.O.V. is that its the job of the Republican party to make sure the Democrat party doesn't do stupid shit? Republicans are to Democrats as psychiatrists are to lunatics? Interesting. I never thought I'd see you agree with Swoop.

How does this reconcile with the popular image of the Democrats being the only ones smart enough to get it right?

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