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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Not really. The fact that rights are being put to a vote in the first place is what is despicable. This has been the case across the United States in state after state. Rights by their very nature are not properly a matter for voting.

Privilege, not a right.

So that brings us to 27 states demonstrably against I believe.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

Gay marriage is a slippery slope issue DESPITE what the liberals say. I know they like to call that a fallacy BUT in reality a fallacy is just an inconvenient truth not accepted in PC society.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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If that's the wishes of the Maineans. Mainonnites. Mainonians....people of Maine.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Privilege, not a right.

So that brings us to 27 states demonstrably against I believe.
Your appeal to popularity is irrelevant.


Marriage is a right.

If marriage was not a right, then straight marriage is not a right and would have no proper claim to legal recognition either.
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Your appeal to popularity is irrelevant.


Marriage is a right.

If marriage was not a right, then straight marriage is not a right and would have no proper claim to legal recognition either.
Marriage is NOT a right!
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Gay marriage is a slippery slope issue DESPITE what the liberals say. I know they like to call that a fallacy BUT in reality a fallacy is just an inconvenient truth not accepted in PC society.
A fallacy indicates faulty reasoning. Slippery slope is a recognized logical fallacy.
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Marriage is NOT a right!
What is marriage?
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Not really. The fact that rights are being put to a vote in the first place is what is despicable. This has been the case across the United States in state after state. Rights by their very nature are not properly a matter for voting.
Give it some time, I'm quite sure gay marriage will be legal in our lifetime. Opposition is weakening, support is growing, it's only a matter of time. Only 53% voted against gay marriage in Maine, that number would have been astronomically higher even just 10 years ago.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Your appeal to popularity is irrelevant.


Marriage is a right.

If marriage was not a right, then straight marriage is not a right and would have no proper claim to legal recognition either.


marriage is a privilege with defined qualifications. thats why you have to apply for a license, to see that you qualify. as the answer is not always 'yes', its not a right.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Give it some time, I'm quite sure gay marriage will be legal in our lifetime. Opposition is weakening, support is growing, it's only a matter of time. Only 53% voted against gay marriage in Maine, that number would have been astronomically higher even just 10 years ago.
I'm not surprised, Maine is pretty freakin liberal.
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marriage is a privilege with defined qualifications. thats why you have to apply for a license, to see that you qualify. as the answer is not always 'yes', its not a right.
What are the necessary qualifications?
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I'm not surprised, Maine is pretty freakin liberal.
The percentage opposing same sex marriage here in Virginia was pretty similar, if I recall correctly. I think it was something around 55-58% voting to keep gay marriage banned back in '06 and I wouldn't be shocked if that number would be a few percentage points lower if it was voted on today.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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What are the necessary qualifications?

some aspects vary by state (age, blood relations) but one man and one woman is the main one.
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A fallacy indicates faulty reasoning. Slippery slope is a recognized logical fallacy.
NO ITS NOT.

Your assumption is as good as mine hence the fallacy idea is out the window.

The only reason why its called a fallacy is because its not provable but I guarantee you if gay marriage was legalized some asshole is going to bitch about not being able to marry his dog... Can I prove it? Nope but it will happen and thats unavoidable.

Lets not forget the slippery slope sets precedent which is and can be used as a tool.

Fuck the whole civil rights movement is one giant example of the slippery slope.
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I'm not surprised, Maine is pretty freakin liberal.

exactly which makes this all the more surprising.
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