Depends on what POV you look at it from and how educated you are.

As far as government, marriage's only purpose is property rights.

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a social construct with a set of property rights laws associated to it.

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When it was on the ballot in Texas, some 80% of the state voted to ban gay marriage. (Well, it was more a case of "defining it between a man and a woman", in the technical wording).

Emphatic.

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What assumption? I was explaining logical fallacy.

Yes, damn our principles of giving people a right to vote, to determine policy!

(See, those assholes really do hate us because of our freedoms).

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You know, reading through this thread earlier, i was waiting and waiting and waiting for a joke about Crabs (there had to be one, given Maine's fishing industry), and yet, nothing!

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Well, from the religious and association prospective it is. But no one is denying gays the ability to find someone with a goofy collar to say some kind words at a party or to live together.

The privilege of being the standard bearer for future generations however, has standards that can not be watered down without consequences.

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This is a good start.

Yes. Property rights are key here.

Who has the right to property?

What, if anything, else comes into the picture here?

Oh, I'd certainly imagine the further south one got, the higher the opposition. You can even see this just in Virginia, where NOVA was the only place to vote for allowing gay marriage by a rather large margin (think it was some 10-12% more than those against allowing it), while the southern parts of the state had similar margins going the other way.

Still, though, if you follow national trends on people's views on gay marriage, the supporters will be the majority in some 5-10 years. It's kind of strange that nationally, gay marriage has more support than marijuana legalization, yet the exact opposite is true for these boards.

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Maine is much better known for its lobster (pronounced "lobstah", lol) than its crabs.

I don't think it will happen at the federal level though...because the SC precedent in place, will never force the federal government to recognize the marriages of gays, it will just never happen.

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Strawman.

My ass.

Your post was pathetic; nobody sees this as another reason to have an other manufactured issue with us as a nation.

Just you living in a world that doesn't exist.

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I'm not surprised by the Maine vote but it's only a temporary defeat. Every poll I've ever seen on the subject shows me the same thing. Most homophobes are old. Most young people take the equality of homosexuals as a given. A few years from now it will come up again and it will pass. By the time my grandchildren are adults they'll find it hard to believe this was ever a controversy.

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and people tend to mature as they age. we'll see what happens.

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