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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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My ass.

Your post was pathetic; nobody sees this as another reason to have an other manufactured issue with us as a nation.

Just you living in a world that doesn't exist.
Do you know what a strawman is?

I didn't say anyone sees this as another reason to despise the United States, but that it would give them another reason to despise the United States.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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I'm not surprised by the Maine vote but it's only a temporary defeat. Every poll I've ever seen on the subject shows me the same thing. Most homophobes are old. Most young people take the equality of homosexuals as a given. A few years from now it will come up again and it will pass. By the time my grandchildren are adults they'll find it hard to believe this was ever a controversy.
Agree 100%.

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and people tend to mature as they age. we'll see what happens.
Yes, people do mature as they age... but I tend to think that issues like this do fade away as older people die off.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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and people tend to mature as they age. we'll see what happens.
If we were talking about business regulations or taxes or foreign policy your point would be valid. But there is no connection between fighting gay marriage and maturity. It's an irrational position that only exists because of prejudice and fear. If you haven't been raised with it I don't think you can learn it later.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Yes, people do mature as they age... but I tend to think that issues like this do fade away as older people die off.

as I said, we'll see.

another factor that could impact this is America's changing demographics. if we get more hispanic or imports for other parts of the world that are less inclined to this, it could well impact how thinking goes.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

Since Maine has a huge logging/timber industry I had to think of Monty Python's Lumberjack Song when considering gay Mainers.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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If we were talking about business regulations or taxes or foreign policy your point would be valid. But there is no connection between fighting gay marriage and maturity. It's an irrational position that only exists because of prejudice and fear. If you haven't been raised with it I don't think you can learn it later.

as I pointed out in the OP, I cannot grasp this insistance of calling it fear.

right and wrong tend to come into better focus as you age. a sure sign of maturity.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Do you know what a strawman is?
Yes, my reply to you was entire satirical though. They don't despize us for this, and they won't.

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I didn't say anyone sees this as another reason to despise the United States, but that it would give them another reason to despise the United States.
Which is just utter nonsense.
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as I said, we'll see.

another factor that could impact this is America's changing demographics. if we get more hispanic or imports for other parts of the world that are less inclined to this, it could well impact how thinking goes.
That's another area where opinions change over time. A staunchly conservative foreinger cannot control how his children will regard these matters. He may be very much against gay marriage, but his kids probably won't care so much about it.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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Maine is much better known for its lobster (pronounced "lobstah", lol) than its crabs.
Yeah, haha, but i couldn't see a joke about a venerial disease with the word lobster!

I hate their freaking accents there, too!
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Yeah, haha, but i couldn't see a joke about a venerial disease with the word lobster!
If you thought crabs were bad, just wait till you come down with a case of the lobsters!

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I hate their freaking accents there, too!
As opposed to your Texas accent? You all sound like a bunch of hillbillys to me.

lol...
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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as I pointed out in the OP, I cannot grasp this insistance of calling it fear.

right and wrong tend to come into better focus as you age. a sure sign of maturity.
It's easy to characterize it as fear or bigotry because there is no rational basis for it.
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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as I pointed out in the OP, I cannot grasp this insistance of calling it fear.

right and wrong tend to come into better focus as you age. a sure sign of maturity.
It's not fear, it's refusal to accept deviate behavior as normal behavior. They want us to line up to be socially and morally dumbed down. How dumb do you have to be to examine man and woman's anatomy and not draw the hetro conclusion?
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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If you thought crabs were bad, just wait till you come down with a case of the lobsters!


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As opposed to your Texas accent? You all sound like a bunch of hillbillys to me.

lol...
Strangely, i don't have a heavy Texan accent. Its kind of like a Cary Grant, transatlantic mix, very strange to most people and half of them think i sound Australian. (That comes of years and years of watching neighbors).
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Re: no same sex marriage in Maine

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NO ITS NOT.
Yes, the slippery slope is a recognized, formal logical fallacy. You, being utterly unfamiliar with logic, its formal tenets, it's application, etc.... wouldn't know this.
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Your assumption is as good as mine hence the fallacy idea is out the window.
That is illogical.
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The only reason why its called a fallacy is because its not provable but I guarantee you if gay marriage was legalized some asshole is going to bitch about not being able to marry his dog... Can I prove it? Nope but it will happen and thats unavoidable.
No, that's not why it's called a fallacy. And, if it's not provable, you wouldn't be able to guarantee it.
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Lets not forget the slippery slope sets precedent which is and can be used as a tool.
No, it doesn't set any precedent. It's a logical fallacy. Logical fallacies don't set precedents.
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Fuck the whole civil rights movement is one giant example of the slippery slope.
Did your parole officer tell you that?
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It's not fear, it's refusal to accept deviate behavior as normal behavior. They want us to line up to be socially and morally dumbed down. How dumb do you have to be to examine man and woman's anatomy and not draw the hetro conclusion?
Ah, so you've never had a blowjob. Somehow I find that comforting and simultaneously amusing.
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