sadly unconstitutional.

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

What you have here is what is called a self-contradiction.

The claim that "there is no such thing as objective truth, only subjective opinion. " must itself not be objective truth only subjective opinion. You have refuted yourself.


Truth itself is logically necessary.

The vote in Maine proves there still are a hell of a lot of homophobes.

The issue will eventually probably be decided by the SCOTUS who by any rational measure of the constitution will have to invalidate all of the state prohibitions on same-sex marriage as being unconstitutional. And when that happens, wait for the cry from the rightwing homophobes about how liberal the SCOTUS is (even though its overall makeup is strongly conservative). I'm sure Scalia will find some way to find that bigotry and denying gays personal rights and freedoms is somehow constitutional, Thomas will go along with him, so the vote will be 7-2 or possibly 6-3.

It's really not a big deal.

Human relationships are named differently, always have been.

My Mom can't be called my sister or aunt. My brother can't be called my Dad, etc etc.

... well, I guess I could call them these things, but then I'd be as dumb as the folks arguing for "gay marriage," which will always be an oxymoron.

Marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman, not two sexually confused people who have trouble understanding something as simple as the function and design of their own bodies

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elect legislators who support your views;and have good judgement. then let them legislate.

and when they demonstrate that they lie about sharing our views and have poor judgement, no recourse ?

its best to have means to hold their feet to the fire in as many ways as possible.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

How have I refuted myself? A string of very sound logic led me, and many others to the conclusion that there is no such thing as objective truth. While the logic used to get to said conclusion is pretty damn solid and probably cannot be debunked by any mortal human, it does not make it objectively infallible, nor did I ever claim it was. Obviously I have no way of knowing if, for example, some supernatural force such as God exists and maintains an objective list of good/bad, right/wrong, ect ect.

You seem to think there is some sort of universal truth accessible to mortal man, but cannot seem to produce any sort of logical path to your conclusion, short of feelings, emotions, and opinions of course.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb discussing what's for dinner.
Liberty is a well armed lamb willing to contest the majority decision!" ~ Benjamin Franklin
"Diplomacy is the art of saying Nice Doggie! while you're looking for a rock. ~ Wynn Catlin
"There are no innocent civilians." - Gerneral Curtis Lemay. A.K.A Bombs away Lemay

We have equal rights now. It is just as legal for a gay man to marry a woman as it is for me, likewise it is just as illegal (in Maine at least) for me to marry a man as it would be for a gay man.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb discussing what's for dinner.
Liberty is a well armed lamb willing to contest the majority decision!" ~ Benjamin Franklin
"Diplomacy is the art of saying Nice Doggie! while you're looking for a rock. ~ Wynn Catlin
"There are no innocent civilians." - Gerneral Curtis Lemay. A.K.A Bombs away Lemay

So who's winning the psycho-babble-athon?

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nobody.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

That's just a word game. Marrying a woman is a useless right for a gay man as would the ability to marry a man be useless to me. I haven't got the fashion sense to pull it off.
If marriage was only allowed between people of the same height then I could not have married my wife but my neighber could still have married his. The gender and height (or race) requirements are equally arbitrary and neither offers equal protection.

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Justice Louis D Brandeis

The fact that you assert that your "logic" is sound demonstrates that you either do not understand formal logic or are too proud to admit defeat or perhaps both. Your statement does fall under the fallacy known as self-contradiction.

a pretty good explanation as to why its not a right.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

This isn't "psycho-babble."

This is getting into formal logic.

Admit defeat? Lol, to what? I've layed out my conclusions and the logic that got me there, you have layed out your conclusions (kinda) but no logical path to back them up. I invite you to back up your assertions that there is some sort of universal truth with logic, I'd love to read it, but simply telling me I need to "grasp philosophy" does not suffice as logic.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb discussing what's for dinner.
Liberty is a well armed lamb willing to contest the majority decision!" ~ Benjamin Franklin
"Diplomacy is the art of saying Nice Doggie! while you're looking for a rock. ~ Wynn Catlin
"There are no innocent civilians." - Gerneral Curtis Lemay. A.K.A Bombs away Lemay